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Need to switch to Hanna Montana Linux now (lemmy.ml)
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[-] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 114 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

This is the "ad". Personally, I don't think a little plug like this is worth any kind of fuss. If it were a real ad or something, then yea I would get it.

[-] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 128 points 11 months ago

An ad is an ad and this definitely is an ad. This is the kind of shit that made me quit Windows and it would make me quit Ubuntu if I was using it.

[-] folkrav@lemmy.ca 67 points 11 months ago

This. Any unsollicited communication that's meant to make you investigate or buy a commercial product is an advertisement. That's all. Is it less intrusive than the TikTok ad in Windows start menu, I think it may be, but it's still an advertisement, by definition.

[-] _dev_null@lemmy.zxcvn.xyz 7 points 11 months ago

Is it less intrusive

For me it is, I would've never ever expected an ad on cli, on a local install, on my machine.

Logged into an ec2 and see an advert? Sure. But not on my own shit. It's a true "ah fuck I can't believe you've done this" factor.

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

Ubuntu Pro seems to be free for regular users (on up to five machines).

Would bother me a lot more if it wasn't a free service. Now it's ehh

[-] folkrav@lemmy.ca 13 points 11 months ago

As I mentioned in another comment, it's still a commercial offering, that happens to have a free tier. Would we be okay with a YouTube link in the same spot?

Honestly, it doesn't bother me that much. It's more that you can see a more and more corporate-y trend in Canonical's decision making, which I personally don't really care for. If I used Ubuntu with the default shell I'd probably just override the MOTD and go on with my life.

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago

Would we be okay with a YouTube link in the same spot?

Like, promoting Youtube or just a link to a Youtube video promoting Ubuntu Pro or what do you mean?

[-] folkrav@lemmy.ca 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

A link promoting any other commercial product with a free tier. Like AWS, or YouTube.

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee -1 points 11 months ago

I wouldn't be really bothered if Google promoted Youtube in their product. I'd expect it, really.

[-] v81@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

I think this is the best take. This alone if it went nowhere is fairly harmless.

But I think we know what it really is, is the start of a slippery slope.

[-] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Different strokes and all that. I'm personally ok with the way this is done, but I can also see why people wouldn't like it at all

[-] jaybone@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

I use Ubuntu and I haven’t seen ads in the terminal.

But I see everyone complaining about them.

What am I missing here?

[-] Th4tGuyII@kbin.social 52 points 11 months ago

While I'm not bothered by this in particular, like other people have said, it feels like the top of a very slippery slope that I would be bothered by

[-] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

That's pretty much how I feel about it. This specific method is alright by me, but it could very easily become something intrusive.

[-] sederx@programming.dev 32 points 11 months ago

It is a real ad though...

[-] TangledHyphae@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Technically, but it's coming from the same servers your packages are being downloaded from, right?

[-] DmMacniel@feddit.de 5 points 11 months ago

I don't think that's from a server but instead it's baked into apt. Or some post-install trigger.

[-] TangledHyphae@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Post-install trigger was my guess.. I used to have to build .rpm's unfortunately but no apt experience yet.

[-] daftwerder@lemm.ee 18 points 11 months ago

this plus the snap crap they've been doing was enough for me to switch to Debian

[-] spudwart@spudwart.com 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I went through the entire cycle.

  • Ubuntu
  • Pop_OS!
  • Mint
  • Manjaro
  • Arch
  • Fedora

And finally I’m at Debian.

[-] dukatos@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

You missed Slackware

[-] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago

And he still hasn't arrived at Gentoo.

[-] crispy_kilt@feddit.de 2 points 11 months ago

He's still compiling

[-] crispy_kilt@feddit.de 1 points 11 months ago

Did you just tell us that you did in fact use Arch?

[-] aberrate_junior_beatnik@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I've been getting ads like these for years on my ubuntu server.

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Learn more about enabling ESM Apps service at https://ubuntu.com/esm

This is on a machine running 20.04. Never bothered me. All my other machines are Debian now, and at some point I'll switch that one too.

[-] majestictechie@lemmy.fosshost.com 16 points 11 months ago

Yeah, plus given you can get pro for free it really seems more like a announcement than an ad. Slippery slope though.

[-] folkrav@lemmy.ca 13 points 11 months ago

What's an ad if not a commercial announcement?

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee -1 points 11 months ago

I guess it doesn't seem as much of an ad if it's something free they're promoting. As it would be for most users.

[-] folkrav@lemmy.ca 7 points 11 months ago

It's a commercial offering with a free tier.

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago

Yes and most users would be in the free tier

[-] folkrav@lemmy.ca 5 points 11 months ago

So it's still an ad to a product, or it's not?

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee -1 points 11 months ago

I guess it doesn't seem as much of an ad if it's something free they're promoting. As it would be for most users.

[-] galmuth@feddit.uk 9 points 11 months ago

Yeah, this isn't that bad. It's just a suggestion after running an apt upgrade. NPM has similar plugs which I don't find too annoying.

In fact its not even as intrusive as NPM's funding requests, as it is only 2 lines of text, plus it looks like Ubuntu Pro is free for personal use.

[-] theneverfox@pawb.social 6 points 11 months ago

I agree that I wouldnt call that an ad, but it's a pretty distasteful plug

[-] Grabbels@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

I see a lot of people comment that this isn’t that bad and that it might even be acceptable, and that’s exactly the problem here: it’s a gateway drug and if we normalise this, Canonical will keep pushing the limits of what they can pull off before it’s not acceptable anymore, and that sounds when it’s too late.

[-] cosmicboi@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

This is not what I would consider an ad. I also remember seeing it only once

[-] zzzz@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

I mean.. It is literally an ad. I don't see how you could not consider it one. You could claim it doesn't bother you or isn't too intrusive or something, but it most certainly is an ad.

[-] cosmicboi@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

I agree that it's not a very intrusive ad

[-] Lime66@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

I have never seen this ever

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