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submitted 1 year ago by Raphael@lemmy.world to c/worldnews@lemmy.ml

To Palestinians, Gaza is a symbol of resistance. To Israel, Gaza is a template to pummel and isolate that resistance.

On June 19, Israeli combat helicopters fired missiles into the camp, ostensibly as part of an arrest operation that ended up killing five Palestinians, including a 15-year-old girl named Sadeel Naghniyeh.

Then in early July, in the worst attack on the West Bank since 2002, the Israeli armed forces terrorised the inhabitants of Jenin for two days and killed at least 12 people, including children. The massive aerial and ground assault involved helicopter gunships, missiles, drones, armoured vehicles, bulldozers and more than 1,000 Israeli soldiers.

That is what happens, it seems, when Palestinians keep rebuilding – and keep existing. Indeed, Al Jazeera quoted 56-year-old camp resident Ahmed Abu Hweileh on the takeaway from the bloody escapade: “The message to the world and the occupation is that this camp will keep on going. They tried to destroy it and it came back up.”

Israel’s recent comportment in Jenin – and particularly the sudden use of air strikes in the West Bank for the first time in years – has invited comparisons to the Israeli modus operandi in the Gaza Strip, another location that has come to symbolise Palestinian resistance.

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[-] zephyreks@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago

Al Jazeera has been given many awards for fair and (relatively) unbiased journalism. Notably, many of the journalists at Al Jazeera are not Qatari.

[-] MomoTimeToDie@sh.itjust.works -4 points 1 year ago

What do corrupt awards given by a corrupt industry prove?

[-] dsemy@lemm.ee -5 points 1 year ago

Qatar is openly hostile to Israel.

Notably, Qatar does not consider the Hamas a terrorist organization. Hamas leaders are based in Qatar.

I am well aware that Al Jazeera is generally considered unbiased, but the conflict of interest is very obvious when it comes to coverage of Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

[-] masquenox@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

Qatar is openly hostile to Israel.

So is anyone with a fully-functional brain. What is your point?

[-] dsemy@lemm.ee -4 points 1 year ago

That its national news agency will be biased against Israel?

Anyone with a fully-functional brain should be able to realize this.

Notice that I never, in any comment, showed support for Israel.

[-] masquenox@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

Hiding your pro-fascist tendencies under a paper-thin "concerns over objectivity" will only work on liberals.

[-] dsemy@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

Fascists deserve to burn.

You don't know shit about me.

[-] masquenox@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Fascists deserve to burn.

You can stop running interference for them any time you feel like.

[-] sangle_of_flame@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

then just cross-reference it with more articles that aren't as biased?

like all news is biased, that's why you're not supposed to just read one source about a thing

[-] Raphael@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Qatar is openly hostile to Israel.

Of course it is. Israel is a terrorist state.

[-] dsemy@lemm.ee -3 points 1 year ago

Qatar literally provides shelter to the leaders of the Hamas, a globally recognized terrorist organization.

[-] masquenox@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

Qatar literally provides shelter to the leaders of the Hamas, a globally recognized terrorist organization.

Have these same people who classify Hamas as a "globally recognized terrorist organization" classified Israel as a terrorist state?

No?

Then their "classifications" isn't worth shit, is it now?

[-] dsemy@lemm.ee -4 points 1 year ago

You know what, I kinda agree with you, these “classifications” really aren't worth shit most of the time.

But I don't need anybody else to tell me that the Hamas is a terrorist organization - just read their fucking charter.

[-] masquenox@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

Hmmm... do you think Israel regrets funding Hamas, then?

I hate to break it to you, Clyde... but Hamas is the lesser evil here. And Israel only has itself to blame for that.

[-] randomname01@feddit.nl 6 points 1 year ago

Anyone with a heart and half a brain should be openly hostile to Israel as it currently operates.

I get what you’re saying and I think we should be mindful where we get our news from, but then being against Israel isn’t enough to discredit their coverage, especially since they’re on the right side on history of this one - meaning they don’t need to make anything up to make Israel look bad. They would be downright stupid to lie, even if they were nothing but Qatari state propagandists.

[-] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Then why does the Israeli government still allow interviews with Al Jazeera reporters? And Qatar is not openly hostile to Israel; it condemns Israel’s human rights abuses but still offers full diplomatic and economic ties with them in exchange for a two state solution (what the U.S. also claims to back) but the rightwing Netanyahu government refused the deal.

[-] dsemy@lemm.ee -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sorry, but if Qatar openly supports a terrorist organization which opposes Israel, I don't see how they could possibly be said to not be openly hostile to Israel.

And I don't see why the Israeli government should limit interviews with foreign press, regardless of origin?

Edit: Maybe "openly hostile" is too harsh, I'm not a native English speaker.

[-] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

That's dramatically oversimplifying to the point of being wrong. Hamas has agreed to a Two State solution with Israel and has done so for years. So has Qatar. I wouldn't call Qatar openly hostile to Israel, same way the Israeli government supports people who are openly hostile to Arabs but Israel is not openly hostile to Qatar.

The Israeli government limits interviews with foreign press all the time, and bans certain Lebanese TV channels for being too supportive of or linked to Hizbullah, but they are okay with interviews with Al Jazeera.

[-] dsemy@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago

Al Jazeera is also banned in Israel.

And you’re delusional if you think Hamas will agree to a two state solution.

[-] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I know that you have a stereotype in your head about Hamas that facts won’t penetrate, but Hamas has publicly agreed that a two state solution is the best they’ll get. They call it “a divorce” from the Jews. Hamas has held up their end of ceasefire deals and Israel has been the one to usually break them.

Maybe you should focus on the Israeli extremists who won’t allow a two state solution.

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