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[-] Poogona@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

That's the impression I always got from LoGH, even when I assumed it was ultimately a liberal tale, the writer followed things at such a granular level of detail that I assumed he was stumbling his way into a materialist reading when I saw evidence of it.

[-] GinAndJuche@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

I wouldn’t go so far as to say it’s the Japanese version of Asimov’s foundation, but it’s close enough given how little content like that there is.

The books are better on that front, but the show and the OVA series really knocked it out of the park on everything else.

Glad I’m not the only fan here, I felt like people would judge it as monarchist or something.

[-] Poogona@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If I am to imagine LoGH as a fully libbed up glorification of papa fascism, in the style of plenty of other political operas of its type, even then it's an honest depiction of a common liberal mindset which is revealing and compelling in its own way. That's how I originally viewed the show: liberal in its ideology but diligent and committed enough to a historical "realism" that it depicts all of the failings and structural conflicts of that ideology, all while adopting that Three Kingdoms-styled "ever onward is the march of history" narrative voice so that it can critique itself while not having to reconcile what it's actually saying about itself.

But if the writer is as lefty as you are saying, then it becomes a piece of seriously crunchy drama analysing the false choice between liberalism and fascism, which sounds more believable coming from a Japanese writer the more I think about it. A Japanese writer, I imagine, would have to be pretty cryptic about how they present leftist ideology, considering the political status of Japan. Miyazaki did that, so now I'm hopeful LoGH is part of that too

[-] GinAndJuche@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

Would you mind explaining the 3K bit? I’m unfortunately rather ignorant about the relationship between the ROT3K and historical analysis of the period.

An important detail: the author has walked back. Less radical with age, a familiar tragedy. But undisputed as formerly a member of the party.

[-] Poogona@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

Lol yep, same thing happened with Miyazaki, perhaps to a lesser degree.

As for the three kingdoms, the opening poem in it says "The empire, long divided, must unite; long united, must divide." Now, the Romance of the Three Kingdoms is a pretty lofty work of literature so there are deeper analyses out there, but it's an example of that narrative voice that says "this stuff just happens, man" instead of taking some kind of stance.

(Considering its place as one of the "three great works" of Chinese literature I'm sure it's more intelligent than I'm making it sound but you get the idea)

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