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[-] TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What sucks is a country run by geriatric oligarchs. This isn't about disenfranchised seniors, this is about the people who make the policies that harm millions while bolstering the wealthy.

Ageism doesn't have a damn thing to do with it. It's absurd to even say it. These are the most powerful people in the country, possibly even the globe. They ain't suffering from ageism.

[-] Nougat@kbin.social -4 points 1 year ago

... too damn old.
... geriatric ...
Ageism doesn't have a damn thing to do with it.

???

[-] TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You would have to be a fool to think Biden or Trump are victims of ageism.

Neither of them have known a moment of real struggle in their lives, to put them in the same group as seniors who can't find employment and struggle to put food on their plates and roofs over their heads is laughable and either poorly thought out or outright disingenuous.

Biden, Trump, McConnell, Pelosi, all these monsters are the very architects of the problems seniors face either through their actions or inaction.

[-] Nougat@kbin.social -3 points 1 year ago

You're purposely ignoring the fact that you called people out on the basis of their age, and then said "Ageism doesn't have a damn thing to do with it."

[-] TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago

The person in command of the largest conventional and nuclear capable military on the planet shouldn't be so old that they forget why they're standing at a podium addressing the masses.

The context matters here. This isn't like putting grandma in a home to rob her of her autonomy when she needs support, these are the people making the very policies that put people in the financial hardships that make that situation commonplace.

No one in these seats of power is suffering from ageism, it would be mad to think so.

[-] Nougat@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

So disqualify candidates on the basis of their mental acuity, not on age.

[-] TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago

Should the minimum age to qualify for presidency be removed?

[-] Nougat@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago

If the aim for a minimum age is to ensure that a person has at least a certain amount of life experience to qualify for office, that is directly related to age, and so a minimum age would be an appropriate measure.

Still waiting for you to acknowledge

You're purposely ignoring the fact that you called people out on the basis of their age, and then said "Ageism doesn't have a damn thing to do with it."

[-] TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's bizarre to recognize that there should be a minimum age for the presidency while saying that its ageist to say that Biden, Trump, etc are too damn old to be president.

They are both clearly in cognitive decline, something that naturally happens with age. Neither belong anywhere near a seat of power. And I'm not suggesting some age limit to be placed on the presidency, simply that it's clearly evident the candidates available to us are too old to be there.

Biden and Trump aren't normal people. They're political oligarchs, some of the wealthiest and most powerful individuals on the planet. They don't suffer things like ageism and other biases in the same way as normal people. Their wealth and power will shield them from all of the problems they help create during the entiries of their lives and after. Their day to day lives are so wildly alienated from a normal existence in America. Pretending like they are victims of ageism is patently absurd and only aids in perpetuating a system of power that utterly disregards the needs of the common person.

[-] Nougat@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

You're purposely ignoring the fact that you called people out on the basis of their age, and then said "Ageism doesn't have a damn thing to do with it."

[-] TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago

Buddy, it doesn't work like that for them. Pretending they're people just like you and me with similar problems and similar lives ain't helping.

But they sure got you fooled.

[-] Nougat@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I'm not talking about them, I'm talking about you.

You're purposely ignoring the fact that you called people out on the basis of their age, and then said "Ageism doesn't have a damn thing to do with it."

[-] TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago

The thread ain't about me, it's about the candidates. They ain't your grandpa, they arm police officers with military equipment and authorize cruise missile attacks on civilians

[-] Nougat@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

You're purposely ignoring the fact that you called people out on the basis of their age, and then said "Ageism doesn't have a damn thing to do with it."

[-] TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago

Good luck, pal. If you're struggling to understand the differences here, you'll need it.

[-] Nougat@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

You started this thread by calling them "too damn old" and "geriatric," then said "Ageism doesn't have a damn thing to do with it."

I pointed out the obvious contradiction there, and you continue to actively ignore it.

[-] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee -4 points 1 year ago

My point further clarified.

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