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[-] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 66 points 1 year ago

There's been a concerted push by these dillweeds lately whining about Biden monetarily supporting Israel -- something the US and literally every US president has done since Israel existed -- which somehow amounts to Biden personally performing any and all atrocities Israel is up to at the moment. Therefore the only logical thing to do must be to not vote for Biden or any other Democrats (unspoken subtext: and let Trump win instead).

[-] Ab_intra@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's such a narrow view.. Biden and his administration don't have anything to do with what's happening on the ground in Gaza, but In my view the US politics for decades have something to do with how it's become. If they where harder on Israel we might have had a different situation. That is not to say I agree with what this guy said. It's completely nonsense.

[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 14 points 1 year ago

It's a deceitful presentation of the facts, ultimately. You can determine to vote for Biden in an effort to stave off fascism and not support his stance on Israel. Biden could have and should have not been so glib, and he clearly did not gauge the temperature of his electorate very well (if at all).

But these "Biden genocide" types often falsely imply there's a viable alternative that isn't Trump or Biden, yet they can never say who, and they can never show how that person would overcome the tribal and very reliable Republican voting bloc.

[-] Whattrees@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago

To be fair to Biden, the American public as a whole has been very pro-Israel for decades and I don't think anyone expected the surge in people on our side of this issue. To be honest, I didn't expect it either. It's great to see but not surprising he would have preemptively said he supports Israel no matter what before realizing how popular the Palestinian cause actually is.

[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago

Oh, for sure. His support of Israel fits perfectly with the kind of person he is: Catholic, Boomer, old career politician, respects what allyship means. Christianity (the non-fundie kind) has been the dominant religion for most of his life, and they've always felt a religious kinship with Israel.

If he was slower to rally to their aid, that would have been the truly surprising outcome.

[-] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

It's a principled view and it'll be a minority of people, but I think their voice is important.

[-] TylerDurdenJunior@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

lol. Nothing but the billions of dollars and military equipment. Even private US defense contractors over there "mowing the lawn".

The ethnic cleansing taking place in Palestine would not be able to take place without the US approval.

He will loose the election over this. It's a horrible fact, and I really wish that dæthe democratic party would line up a better candidate, since Trump winning will be a total decline into the fascist abyss.

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