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Oslo-Trondheim is either 7 hour drive or a 45 min flight. Not everyone are blessed with flat countries and fast trains.
Terrible comparison. Door to door with up to four people and baggage it's a 7h drive, that 45min flght is not door to door..
My nearest airport is 30 mins to the train station, 15mins walk to the lobby 60mins in check-in, 60mins contingency waiting at the gate, then 45mins flight which is probably delayed 15 mins. Then another 15 mins waiting to get off the plane, then 20mins waiting for baggage and another 60mins to get to your destination.
Yes it's probably still faster, but don't try to compare a flight to a drive in the way you just did lol
Also thanks for fucking our environment to save yourself 2-3h
It's 45min flight + 40 min bus to the airport + ~30 min wait for on boarding (not a lot of security theater/long queues). Let's add another 40 min for takeoff and getting my luggage. 40 min bus from the airport to Oslo for a total of 3 hours and 15 min.
It's literally more time on the bus than on the plane, especially for those of us who don't live in Oslo and need to take the bus for even longer.
If I were to be realistic with the drive, I would add another hour to the drive as you'll likely want to stop to eat during the drive. That's half the time of what it takes to drive.
I'll drive during the summer since I can stop halfway through and take a short hike in the mountains before continuing, but during the winter you run the risk of the roads getting shut down if the weather is bad over the mountains.
You're welcome, I'm sure those 2 flights per year by someone who doesn't even own a car and probably never will is ruining the environment lmao.
Yeah my point wasn't that it's faster to drive, my point was your original comparison was unfair.
What you've described is far more accurate representation of the choices and their durations.
You ended up multiplying your "time it takes on the plane" by over four times. It went from "45m" to "3h15m" which was the main point I wanted to get at.
Secondly, it is an undeniable fact that flying has a larger effect on the environment per person than driving even a shitty old car. Don't try to cop out, the least you can do is own it and say "so what". Remember this next time you fly (2 per year alone is a lot btw).
I'm not going to try to argue what choices you should make, just be educated in the effect of those choices.
I feel like the added time to and from the airport is something everyone are aware of, it's pretty much the same regardless of flight time. The flight is still a 45 min flight. I don't work for "big air flight", so I don't have anything to gain on convincing someone that flying is more time effective for certain trips.
In what world is 2 flights per year a lot? It's a single round-trip.
My buddy who works as a robotics mechanic flies every month for his work, my old man working off-shore flies 4 times every month. Your typical family/couple will take a trip or two on vacation every year. I feel like the odd one out since I got a cabin where I spend my vacation instead of seeing the world.
I'm not trying to "cop out", why would I make excuses for strangers on the internet? I don't feel any guilt for what's a literal drop in the ocean. There are other glaring issues that I'm more concerned about than flight traffic. If you hold a different opinion that's fine and I'm happy to hear it.
I'm purely sharing my opinion on a site dedicated for that. It's a good way to get perspective and opinions from people across cultures and at different stages of life.