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It’s Time to End Magical Thinking About Russia’s Defeat
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Why does WSJ suddenly sound like Russian government sponsored media?
Take one guess. This is straight up propaganda
It’s an opinion essay. Why do people not understand that news organizations publish these, and that they don’t all represent the views of the paper? They will even publish multiple conflicting opinions. This has been a part of news for decades if not over a century. Why do people still not understand this?
Because they choose to publish it?
Who wrote it doesn’t bloody matter.
I guess you just can’t imagine anything other than pushing one’s own agenda. The concept that a news organization might want to publish in depth, well articulated opinions from a spectrum of different perspectives is just unthinkable in this polarized age of “my narrative or nothing.”
I can imagine them pushing their own agenda. It’s exactly what they’re doing pushing this propaganda.
Now let’s get to the real issue, why don’t think a newspaper isn’t responsible for what it publishes? Do you think they can wash it away by using a non-hired writer?
DOH! That’s what I just said.
Oh my lord. I’ve already explained above how opinion sections work, twice. Newspapers provide space for opinion pieces across different perspectives. I’ve actually been in a newsroom and seen the discussions. But you shouldn’t need that to understand an open shared space in a newspaper. Like I said, I guess it’s just over your head. Words on paper! Paper come from WSJ!
I’ve been waiting and hoping for Russia to fail in their war and more than that: collapse. There are a thousand YT videos about how this is inevitable and imminent. This has been the case for a long time now. It keeps not happening. I’m willing to at least read an opinion piece from someone saying that maybe it never will and we should think that possibility through instead of continuing to hope for a watershed moment to deliver all our dreams.
Collapse on Russian government is a fantasy. They don't have a huge war and spy machine just for external threats, so they are not new to this game and a lot of powerful Russians have been "dropping out of windows". Russia is not that unified. It's a huge country with large number of various ethnicities and many of those don't feel very Russian. They just want to be left alone. Reality of Russias loses is startin to be weight on their shoulders and their war has been a failure and embarrassment for a long time now. Russias collapse wouldn't even be a very favorable outcome. World would just have a one more violent shithole where people kill each other and massacre the innocent.
Because you’ve been ingesting so much propaganda that you assume anything that veers from their narrative must be from your perceived enemy.