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How did I belittle them? By saying they were needlessly fearmongering? Because they are needlessly fearmongering. Muslims haven't taken over port towns and they won't implement sharia law in Europe.
That's fair. I can see how I read more malice into your comment than was intended. I'd like to apologize for that.
I do want (for the sake of clarity) to say that I agree the flow of muslims to EU/US cities is not a problem. The notion of any western nation implementing Sharia Law (or any approximation) is wild at best.
I do think that the way you accused him of needlessly fear mongering doesn't placate or soften the guys opinions. I think flat accusations like that are part of what pushes guys who do believe "Sharia Law will come by having Muslims around" into more extremist positions. Whether you intended it or not, I'm sure it was received as a belittling comment what will only serve to alienate the guy.
That does beg the question: what is the correct way to handle comments like this guy's, to which I don't have a good response. I do appreciate you rolling out actually data. But watching the polarization of beliefs and politcal positions, I feel the part folling the link to statistics isn't helping.
I did NOT say that at allllllllll. You change my words into what you want to attack!
Reading comprehension amongst 14yo basement fundies has gone down, I understand that, so please take some time and read again what I ACTUALLY wrote. Thanks.
Your words:
So I referred to their preference of law.
And to their taking over towns (at night, I should have mentioned) and countries. Examples were mentioned, go walk around in Rotterdam Marseille or r even Paris after 7pm in ANY non tourist area. They are visibly in the HUGE majority of people walking around. Locals/natives stay in their houses. Muslims are 95% of the people you see on the street. That is NOT what my home country used to be.
I have nothing against them, nor their hopes and beliefs.
However it's NOT European in its essence. Belgium is a prime example of ALL major cities being 50% non natives in total and the people on the street in the evening upto 95%. Small towns are mostly native, for the moment.
I am NOT racist. But I am realistic. My best friends are moderate Muslims...