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submitted 11 months ago by t_378@lemmy.one to c/programming@beehaw.org

A friend of mine is interested in the "sovereign artist" model, which basically means that you self publish and self release your own work on your own website, as opposed to using a publishing house or art gallery.

It's powerful because it gives everyone a platform to share "niche" art, but as a consumer, it can be difficult to find and "curate" high quality, interesting works of art. Is there a rating/voting system that exists that is resitant to internet vote tampering?

I'm talking about how 10 years ago, Amazon reviews were pretty helpful. But now they've been swarmed with paid and bot written reviews. Same with Slickdeals and many others.

I'd want a voting system that incorporates some ideas:

  • it would prevent one person from making multiple fake accounts
  • reviews wouldn't be suppressed or promoted by paid algorithims
  • the algorithm WOULD help connect people to items they are interested in. But maybe the workings of it would be open source, so it can be audited for bad acting.

Does a project like this exist somewhere? Rather than host that project in one place, it could be powerful to defederate and prevent the temptation to manipulate algorithms.

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[-] off_brand_@beehaw.org 5 points 11 months ago

The problem breaks down into a few broad sub problems, as I see it.

  1. Confirming the reviewer or voter is who they say they are (to prevent one entity from making multiple reviews).
  2. Confirming the reviewer or voter is a valid stakeholder. This is domain-specific, but can be such metrics as "citizen of country", or "verified purchaser".
  3. Confirming the intent of the reviewer. This meaning people who were paid off (buyers who are offered a gift card for a positive review, which happens plenty on Amazon), or discounting review bombs when a game "goes woke".

1 and 2 have solutions. Steam cares about whether you're a verified purchaser, and the barrier to entry of "1 purchase of a game per vote" is certainly enough to make things harder to bot. Amazon might be able to do the same, but so much of the transaction happens outside their purview that a foolproof system would be hard. Not that it's in their interest to do so, though.

For places like Reddit or Lemmy, verifying one human per up vote is going to be impossible. New accounts are cheap and easy as a core function of the product. bot detection is only going to get harder, too.

If you used some centralized certificate system (like SSL certs), you could maybe get as granular as one vote per machine, but not without massive privacy invasions. The government does this for voting kinda, but we make a point to keep those private identifiers the government gives private.

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