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this post was submitted on 30 Nov 2023
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What this shows us is that more people are joining lemmy, but even more people are either leaving or going into lurker mode, as Lemmy only counts people who have commented or posted in that time period as active users, whereas most social media counts any activity while logged in as active. You have to realize that people who use reddit as Google search results don't usually interact with the content there and most won't even make an account.
On the upside, with fewer people, it's easy to get noticed here just by contributing good content since you don't really get drowned out here because of the democratic upvote based sorting instead of black box personalized recommendation algorithms. So with relatively low amount of effort, you can make sure your content is being seen instead of relying on analytics and metrics.
The last thing to in mind that Lemmy is only one aspect of ActivityPub, and Mastodon's growth is currently the highest right now because of the ecosystem created by the whale fall of Twitter, which indirectly grows Lemmy as Mastodon users can post directly to federated Lemmy communities.
Do votes count as activity as well? Or just posts and comments?
It really should.
Strong agree
I can see the arguments for both, to be honest. Ideally I'd like to be able to see statistics for both. Active Users and Active Contributors?
You can already see how many posts and comments users make. Isn’t that the same?
Well, as mentioned that is also covered by the Monthly Active Users metric that already is available. But in addition to that, I think it would be interesting to see the number of users who read and vote but don't post or comment. Even though posting and commenting is the biggest part, actively voting is still an important part of the ecosystem.
True, could be nice to see data on content consumers, and not just the content creators.
I changed the algorithms in programming.dev to take into account voters in the activity. Since stats are all calculated locally you can view any community from programming.dev to get the monthly active users including that change
e.g. https://programming.dev/c/technology@lemmy.world shows 27.8k users/month on p.d which is almost as much as the value here for all of lemmy excluding voters
That's crazy! User/month goes from only 7.5k active to 27.8k. And that's just people voting. What about people who only read a post?
Dont have access to those stats in the database so adding on voting is the best I can do
Theres a post read table but its only people who have explicitly marked something as read and is way less than the post likes
Do posts get marked as read when you read the comments? There's the x new comments feature, so something must be storing that timestamp.
I dug through the code and turns out the post read table does store when its read (with number of comments when it was read stored in a person post aggregates table), it just only stores it for people from your instance so I cant get accurate numbers from all of lemmy (and why it seemed like there was a low amount)
Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn't work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: !technology@lemmy.world
!vintageLA@lemmy.world
*edit: so, that seems to not have worked in the Boost app. Is it a link for anyone else?
vintagela@lemmy.world
That doesn't seem to make a hyperlink either.
/c/vintagela@lemmy.world
All three of those work in Thunder!
Thanks! I guess it's just a bug in Boost.
Agreed. Lurkers are what keep these sites alive.
Votes unfortunately don't count