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Ukraine blows up main railway connection between Russia and China (www.politico.eu)

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Ukraine’s security service blew up a railway connection linking Russia to China, in a clandestine strike carried out deep into enemy territory, with pro-Kremlin media reporting that investigators have opened a criminal case into a “terrorist attack.”

The SBU set off several explosions inside the Severomuysky tunnel of the Baikal-Amur highway in Buryatia, located some 6,000 kilometers east of Ukraine, a senior Ukrainian official with direct knowledge of the operation told POLITICO.

“This is the only serious railway connection between the Russian Federation and China. And currently, this route, which Russia uses, including for military supplies, is paralyzed,” the official said.

Four explosive devices went off while a cargo train was moving inside the tunnel. “Now the (Russian) Federal Security Service is working on the spot, the railway workers are unsuccessfully trying to minimize the consequences of the SBU special operation,” the Ukrainian official added.

Ukraine’s security service has not publicly confirmed the attack. Russia has also so far not confirmed the sabotage.

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[-] nicetriangle@kbin.social 32 points 1 year ago

I'm curious whether China will take this as a personal affront and feel the need to save face by escalating their participation. That would not be ideal.

[-] someguy3@lemmy.ca 38 points 1 year ago

China really has no reason to take this as an affront. China will continue milking Russia for money/oil and let them continue weaken themselves, but they have no reason to get involved or sell them weapons.

[-] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 37 points 1 year ago

I'm no expert, please take this with a massive chunk of salt, but as far as I understand it China is trying to balance their relationship with Russia with their relationship with the US. I'd expect the reaction to a rail bombing like this to be muted and cautious.

[-] nicetriangle@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago

Good point. It has seemed recently like they're trying to make nice with the US again all of a sudden. Some of their comments after visiting San Francisco were very out of step with their rhetoric up until recently. At least as far as what I have gathered from news articles. I don't really have a great grasp on the nuances of it myself. They're a difficult government to understand sometimes.

[-] Krackalot@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 year ago

I think their trying to get a pro China movement in the west. I also think it's working.

[-] Chocrates@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Eh I am neutral on China at first blush, which is actually pretty shitty when you think about their anti democratic actions and ethnic cleansing of Uyghurs

[-] jaybone@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

They are going to have a hard time recovering from their dot balloons and the shot they pull in Taiwan, at least as far as public opinion goes. But democrats seem to be offering them some kind of economic deals that they seem to be happy about. Not sure if that’s a good thing or not.

[-] cecinestpasunbot@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I think part of the problem is that US media generally accepts the US state department’s interpretation of Chinese foreign policy. That makes it difficult to interpret China’s aims since it’s buried under pro US bias.

Personally, I think the Chinese government appears relatively predictable if you can parse various global sources including the actual statements China publishes. Granted that’s a bit more difficult since it means accounting for all the biases of each source.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 0 points 1 year ago

China and Russia share similar ideologies but that's about where the similarities ends.

China isn't insane and actually understands restraint unlike Russia they're not going to go charging into something without examining the consequences. China really doesn't want to get involved in this if they can help it, as I've looked at it and it's only downsized as far as they can see.

If Russia does attack NATO and NATO gets involved, and the Chinese still send them resources after that point, then it's possible NATO will consider China to be involved and therefore a legitimate target. This will mean that China will have to go toe-to-toe with the US military, and they really don't want to.

Of course all of those are big if's, and to be honest are very unlikely but it's not an impossibility and the risk they've decided isn't worth the very little reward.

[-] skozzii@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

China will just get to charge higher delivery fees with the planes, trucks and boats that will have to ship all the goods.

Good news for China, Russia need the stuff either way, it just gonna cost them more now and take longer to arrive.

[-] circuscritic@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Their reaction will depend on how this impacts their strategic use for Russia, which is soley as a source for raw materials (oil, minerals, etc.)

Selling goods into Russia, while critical for Russia, is barely a rounding error for China. The natural resources from Russia, however are critical inputs for the Chinese economy.

[-] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago

It's interesting how the Russian government completely mismanaged even that little dependence. They could have more influence toward China.

Though if they were smart, eh, there are too many things to mention which they'd do differently. Something about invasions of generally friendly neighbors being stupid.

[-] Siegfried@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I think China is more concerned about being included in the next set of sanctions. If this railroad was the only rail that connected China directly to Russia, then I expect the export of arms to slowdown a bit just for caution sake.

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