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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by lemmelurk@lemmy.ml to c/lemmy_support@lemmy.ml

I do not want to block all bots. I only want to block bots from specific instance. More specifically, the @alien.top instance is using most, if not all, bot accounts with random usernames. It uses that instance to post in communities of other instances. I thought about blocking other instances. But the main issue lies with random bot accounts from @alien.top. And I cannot block individually by usernames.

What shall I do to block posts posted by random bot accounts of @alien.top instance?

Update

I looked up potentially affiliated sites connected to that instance and found these.

https://level-up.zone/ (@communick, high post rate)
https://gearhead.town/?dataType=Post&page=1&sort=New (same admin, high post rate)
https://viewfinder.pro/?dataType=Post&page=1&sort=New (same admin, medium post rate)
https://netheads.online/?dataType=Post&page=1&sort=New (same admin, low post rate)
https://healthy.community/?dataType=Post&page=1&sort=New (same admin, low post rate)
https://sfw.community/?dataType=Post&listingType=Local&page=1&sort=New (same admin, no post yet)
https://blockchained.world/?dataType=Post&page=1&sort=New (same admin, low post rate)
https://matchpoint.zone/?dataType=Post&page=1&sort=New (same admin, low post rate)
https://poweruser.forum/?dataType=Post&page=1&sort=New (same admin, high post rate)
https://hi-fi.community/?dataType=Post&page=1&sort=New (same admin, medium post rate)
https://expats.zone/?dataType=Post&page=1&sort=New (same admin, medium post rate)
https://nba.space/?dataType=Post&page=1&sort=New (same admin, high post rate)
https://athletic.center/?dataType=Post&listingType=Local&page=1&sort=New (same admin, no post yet)
https://style.land/?dataType=Post&page=1&sort=New (same admin, high post rate)
https://metacritics.zone/?dataType=Post&page=1&sort=New (same admin, high post rate)
https://academy.garden/?dataType=Post&page=1&sort=New (same admin, medium post rate)
https://foodie.rehab/?dataType=Post&page=1&sort=New (same admin, no post yet)
https://indiehackers.space/?dataType=Post&page=1&sort=New (same admin, high post rate)
https://hardware.watch/?dataType=Post&page=1&sort=New (same admin, high post rate)
https://nfl.community/?dataType=Post&page=1&sort=New (same admin, high post rate)

The instances may be hours to two months old and are run by the same admin. Some have high post rate, while others have no post yet. The ones with posts are all using @alien.top's random bot accounts. I suspect this problem will amplify.

Update2

Blocking by instance is finally working. I blocked @alien.top and @hardware.watch. Consider this issue resolved.

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[-] rglullis@communick.news -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Please, do not feel discouraged to participate. The idea of the bots is not to be a simple mirror, but to bootstrap real conversation. The next step of Fediverser is to allow two-way communication so that Reddit users can see the Lemmy content and migrate.

The reason that alien.top content seems so overwhelming now is more to Lemmy"s losing its activity than a real "flood" of bots. My hope is that people will join in to the point of balancing out, but if this is leading to the opposite effect I will have to turn off, and that will be a shame because there are hundreds of people already using it "as intended"

[-] zeppo@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I read more about the project and it seems interesting. I suppose 2 way communication to sync accounts between reddit and lemmy would be interesting... would the reddit TOS allow that? Or would the reddit admins tolerate it for long? I suppose you've looked into it.

The problem is the current state is confusing... if you look at the communities posted in by the bots, it is a huge flood of posts, like sometimes 20 posts in 15 minutes. I guess that would be different if Lemmy was more active, but it isn't yet. Also, it's confusing - one has to visit alien.top and github to have any idea what's going on, and if the account holders aren't receiving the posts, it's sort of wasting people's effort on lemmy and not creating true engagement. Perhaps a disclaimer like 'this post mirrored by Fediverser' would help.

[-] rglullis@communick.news -4 points 1 year ago

I agree with pretty much everything but:

it’s sort of wasting people’s effort on lemmy and not creating true engagement

Even if we don't have two-way communication, having the content mirrored has two purposes:

  • it allows lurkers to move away from reddit and browse here.

  • it works as a prompt for conversation between "organic" subscribers.

I will add a comment to every post though (similar to how AutoModerator does) to indicate that is a mirrored comment and with general instructions on how to interact with the bots and some links to describe the project.

[-] zeppo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Great, I think as my and other people's experience illustrates it has been a bit confusing so far, being unexplained. The byline will help a lot, I think.

Sure, it's useful as it is as long as people check into their Lemmy accounts. I suppose I would if I signed up and was aware there might be replies waiting for me on Lemmy in addition to Reddit.

[-] rglullis@communick.news -4 points 1 year ago

So, a comment like this one will be sent on every mirrored post. The only issue I see with this approach is that there is no way to pin a comment to the top of the thread...

[-] zeppo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

That's cool, I think that will help explain it. I didn't realize the accounts for people on reddit were being created on lemmy automatically though. Do the reddit users even know it's happening?

[-] remotelove@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

Your instance is misreporting its name somehow and it was super annoying when I was trying to block it.

Is it alien.top or selfhosted.forum? Pick one please.

Also, do you manage any other instances so I can block those as well? Needless to say, I am slightly pissed off that I have replied to several posts before I saw they were bots. Some of those replies took some effort when I was trying to actually be helpful.

[-] rglullis@communick.news -4 points 1 year ago

There is nothing being misreported, they are separate instances.

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