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What do you think would finally be their, "Enough, we gotta say something!" situation?

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Put another way, what might serve as a cosmic icebreaker?

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[-] Geek_King@lemmy.world 56 points 10 months ago

I suppose it depends on why they're being quiet. If other civilizations view each other as competitors for rare resources like worlds that would be inhabitable with out large scale terraforming, then being loud may get your planet targeted. That's the basis for the "Dark Forest" theory. I think that theory is interesting, but it's a bit pessimistic in my opinion. What's way more likely is, if there are other civilizations out there, the odds of them existing during the same time frame that we're here, AND being close enough to receive radio waves in a timely fashion, AND are at a technology level to send and receive those radio waves.... it's all very very very unlikely.

For me, what's way scarier is, it isn't that everyone is being quiet, it's that there isn't any one else out there, and we're one of the first civilizations to develop. If there were other highly advanced civilizations out there, there'd be signs of them, signs of their technology. Shit, I read that large ships moving at close to the speed light would generate detectable gravity waves. But so far, nothing.

[-] IonAddis@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

For me, what’s way scarier is, it isn’t that everyone is being quiet, it’s that there isn’t any one else out there, and we’re one of the first civilizations to develop.

Why would you find that scary?

Is it because of the 'great filter' stuff, that there must therefore be something ahead of us in time that wipes us out (like self-inflicted climate change)? Or is it something like humans being awfully flawed to go down in universal history as the "first" intelligent and technologically advanced species? Or something else?

[-] Num10ck@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

maybe if we're the only and first one, our odds of 'success' are much lower, and aint nobody gonna show up to guide us. if millions of previous had already 'succeeded' then its likely smooth sailing with a well tread path.

[-] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 5 points 10 months ago

That's fine though, 10,000 Years of unguided human history got us here. We relatively just got started in science. It would be more scary if we saw derelict super structures.

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