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"We recognize that, in the next four years, our decision may cause us to have an even more difficult time. But we believe that this will give us a chance to recalibrate, and the Democrats will have to consider whether they want our votes or not."

That's gotta be one of the strangest reasonings I've heard in a while.

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[-] K1nsey6@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The fascists have already taken over, and democrats helped enable it. But taking away the human rights and the right to live overseas is ok?

[-] Telorand@reddthat.com -1 points 11 months ago

The fascists have already taken over, and democrats helped enable it.

Prove it. Start by defining "fascist." Then, demonstrate how the US has become a fascist state.

But taking away the human rights and the right to live overseas is ok?

No. But if it's a choice to keep my human rights and take away someone else's versus take away both mine and theirs, I'll take the former. Life isn't always fair, and sometimes you have to make shit choices.

More importantly however, your scenario again presumes Biden is the cause of the loss of those human rights, that if we didn't do a thing, Israel wouldn't be bombing Palestine in retaliation anyway. Yet, who was it that secured a temporary ceasefire to get humanitarian aid in, release hostages, and let civilians escape?

If your entire argument boils down to, "I'm going to turn my nose up at Biden to feel ideologically superior," you are about as politically savvy as single-issue conservatives.

[-] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

politically savvy as single-issue conservatives.

That's ironic coming from people whos single issue is keeping the red fascists out of office so their blue ones can stay in.

[-] Telorand@reddthat.com -1 points 11 months ago

And you still haven't defined what a fascist is or how they've taken over the country. Words have meaning, and if you can't do those two things, your arguments are meaningless.

[-] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

I learned a long time ago I could list bullet points of proof and shitlibs would still cry 'but Trump.' Fascism can never gain a foothold without a complicit liberal party supporting them

[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 0 points 11 months ago

I learned a long time ago I could list bullet points of proof and shitlibs would still cry 'but Trump.'

A.k.a: "I'm bullshitting, and I'm hoping desperately you don't call my bluff."

List them or admit you are unjustifiably spouting nonsense. A claim is not evidence.

[-] K1nsey6@lemmy.world -3 points 11 months ago

Debating someone with a cult hive mind mentality is futile.

[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 3 points 11 months ago

You don't have a plan. You don't have a list. You can't define "fascist." Why should anyone take you seriously?

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago

Prove it. Start by defining “fascist.”

"I want to argue semantics now."

[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 2 points 11 months ago

I notice you didn't either. Know why? Because you won't. You know that if you used a definition people accepted, Biden doesn't fit it, so you can't keep using that as some kind of rhetorical club to feel superior.

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