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The media won't give me great answers to this question and I think this I trust this community more, thus I want to know from you. Also, I have heard reports that Russia was winning the war, if that's true, did the west miscalculate the situation by allowing diplomacy to take a backseat and allowing Ukraine to a large plethora of military resources?

PS: I realize there are many casualties on both sides and I am not trying to downplay the suffering, but I am curious as to how it is going for Ukraine. Right now I am hearing ever louder calls of Russia winning, those have existed forever, but they seem to have grown louder now, so I was wondering what you thought about it. Also, I am somewhat concerned of allowing a dictatorship to just erase at it's convenience a free and democratic country.

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[-] DeathWearsANecktie@lemm.ee 31 points 11 months ago

As others have said, it's a war of attrition. There's no end in sight. As it stands, we can only speculate on who is winning. Russia have so far failed to make any significant gains, and Ukraine have so far failed to push the Russians out.

It's a bit like the stalemates of trench warfare in WW1. Something will have to give eventually.

[-] Gosplan14_the_Third@hexbear.net 14 points 11 months ago

Or, the fighting will eventually stop and the current status quo will remain permanent. It's hard to tell.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com 1 points 11 months ago

That's probably the only outcome that will never happen. Russia will re-attack again (as seen 2008, 2014, etc etc).

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 11 months ago

It's a war of attrition that Ukraine is losing because they have a much smaller population to draw on and rely on weapons from the west. Ukraine is already conscripting children, women, and the elderly now. It's absurd to think that such conscripts are going to be able to hold off a seasoned professional army for long.

[-] Microw@lemm.ee -2 points 11 months ago

If Russia actually had a "seasoned professional army", this war would already be over. Russia is putting inexperienced youths from underdeveloped regions at the front line because their elite doesnt want to fight.

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 11 months ago

I recommend reading what people who actually have a clue have to say on the subject https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine

[-] GivingEuropeASpook@hexbear.net 8 points 11 months ago

It's like the trenches of WWI combined with the forever wars the US fought in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Congratulations Russia, you've saddled yourself with a decades long conflict potentially and lost the geopolitical purpose of invading Ukraine within months since Sweden and Finland applied for NATO membership.

[-] Sinister@hexbear.net 11 points 11 months ago

Sweden and Finland were part of the EU defense clause. They were already defacto NATO members. Sweden even was constantly aggressive towards russia before the Ukraine war.

Now the Americans can openly build their bases. The welfare states of these two nations will certainly decline as well. The presence of american bases, curiously leads to the same economic policies each time.

[-] PosadistInevitablity@hexbear.net 4 points 11 months ago

Ukraine eventually would have invaded Russian lands under a pretense that Russia had attacked first.

Western media would have covered for this. How exactly could Russia have avoided this war of Western aggression?

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