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submitted 11 months ago by tavu@sopuli.xyz to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.

Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.

Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).

OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”

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[-] LWD@lemm.ee 50 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)
[-] JoeBidet@lemmy.ml 7 points 11 months ago

yet it's fair to say that:

  • Signal was incepted by US gov funds
  • During most of it's initial conception phase it was US gov funded
  • therefore some of the characteristics its users still suffer today (like reliance on strong selectors, pinky-promise of non-retaining metadata, centralized architecture based on the same "cloud" as the one of the CIA and other decisions hostile to free/libre software users and ethics) originate from that era.
[-] LWD@lemm.ee 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)
[-] JoeBidet@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

"Between 2013 and 2016, Open Whisper Systems received grants from the Shuttleworth Foundation,[49] the Knight Foundation,[50] and the Open Technology Fund.[51]"

"Marlinspike launched Open Whisper Systems' website in January 2013.[2][1]"

(from the page you linked)

How is that not the OTF (100% funded by Radio Free Asia) since its inception? how is it not its initial conception phase?

[-] LWD@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)
[-] JoeBidet@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago

well before 2013 it wasnt "Signal" but some proprietary software. After 2016 it wasn't anymore "the initial phase"

Funny how you don't seem to be wanting to see 2013-2016, but it's OK. facts speak for themselves :)

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