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[-] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 241 points 11 months ago

So we have a spare 10 billion for Israel, but not predatory studen loan debt relief for our own citizens? Sounds about right

[-] bender223@lemmy.today 81 points 11 months ago

pls, giving student loan debt relief instead of $10 billion to Israeli gov't is considered anti-Semitic 😔

[-] Maeve@kbin.social 42 points 11 months ago
[-] Land_Strider@lemmy.world 29 points 11 months ago

Free school lunch? Believe or not, straight into communism!

[-] Maeve@kbin.social -2 points 11 months ago
[-] Landsharkgun@midwest.social 8 points 11 months ago

I hope it's not. Here we were thinking it would take armed struggle to reach communism, but we can just give people free lunch instead? Sign me up.

[-] Maeve@kbin.social -2 points 11 months ago

I like the cut of your jib!

[-] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

It's a play on a parks and rec quote

[-] MycoBro@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

Free school lunch!? Well there, Karl, I bet they will give you a free lunch in the gulags.

[-] timewarp@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Tell that to the media. CNN headline will be like... "Antisemetic Jewish Senator Supports Terrorist Group Hamas"

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[-] SCB@lemmy.world 52 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Military aid is generally not cash.

Now if you want to cut the military budget to do things at home, I'm all for that

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 36 points 11 months ago

I'll take a tank to pay my student debt

Please give me a tank to pay my student debt

[-] Moneo@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

Arthur pay your student debt.

I'M IN A TANK AND YOU'RE NOT

[-] netburnr@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

Give a man a tank, he never had debt again.

[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 8 points 11 months ago

It's cash to the weapons manufacturers and substitutes for cash the recipient would need to pay. It's not like we give those weapons away and then just have fewer weapons.

[-] prole@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago

Student loan debt wouldn't have been "cash" either. They're federal loans. They're just numbers on a computer at this point, and wiping it out would be trivial (as we've seen with the continued, successful, attempts for the Biden Admin to continue forgiving these loans on the sly using whatever loopholes they can).

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[-] interceder270@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Damn, every take you make on this forum is completely asinine lol.

Military aid is generally not cash.

So it's free? Military equipment has no value and giving it away is not a loss?

[-] SeducingCamel@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

It's funny how often you see a wack ass take and this guy's name is attached

[-] joatmasterofnone@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

At least if we are giving them tangible goods rather than cash, it's not as fungible.

But I don't agree with giving ANY country aid. Shut it all off. We have shit at home to deal with.

Any money being sent abroad is 100% eventually lining the pockets of politicians. Even money spent domestically does.

[-] VR20X6@sh.itjust.works -1 points 11 months ago

It's not, but do you think we're giving away cutting edge military tech or not developing that cutting edge tech that obsoletes the stuff we're giving away regardless? It doesn't really have a lot of value to the US rotting away in warehouse storage.

Note that I'm not saying this in support of Israel nor am I well enough informed to know if this even applies there. It definitely applies to Ukraine aid, though.

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[-] joatmasterofnone@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

The military budget isn't even that large. You realize that Medicare, Medicaid, and Ss all used to be under HHS. They took it out because then people would realize that's actually where something like 82% of our budget goes.

And before you go, "military spending is 40% or whatever" that's literally because they STOPPED including medicare/medicaid/SS (not all of them but I forget which ones) in those budget numbers. In reality, HHS, MC/MC, and SS EACH are larger line items than military spending.

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Bro I'm not engaging with a person who wants to end all foreign aid. That could not possibly be a worse position to hold.

[-] platypus_plumba@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

The lower they are, the higher you seem. Helping the poor is never in their interest. If you are not poor, they are not rich.

[-] joatmasterofnone@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

That literally how they have exploited civilizations for centuries.

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