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[-] PugJesus@kbin.social 296 points 11 months ago

Common Bernie W

He should have been president.

[-] rayyy@lemmy.world 52 points 11 months ago

He should have been president.

Hands down. He had the populist vote of independents and many Republicans too. The right of center DNC torpedoed him. They weren't going to allow a center left candidate through. Wasn't the first time either. At the 1944 Democratic National Convention, conservative party leaders defeated a very popular Henry Wallace's bid for renomination. I canceled all donations to the DNC and became an Independent.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

He had the populist vote of independents and many Republicans too.

To put a finer point on it: he had the margin of victory over Trump that Clinton did not, and it came from precisely the sorts of people who don't vote in Democratic Party primaries (which is why the "but he couldn't even win the primary" rebuttal is nothing but dishonest horseshit).

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[-] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Our people don't deserve a leader like him.

Our people prefer charismatic liars that tell us we can get moooore than our neighbors if we play the rigged game and work against one another.

Our people would much rather have a 0.1% chance of lucking into a lifestyle of perverse gluttony than have a 100% chance of everyone having a roof, a bed, and a full belly at night.

Our people are selfish and cruel.

I haven't and won't vote for any Republican ever, but I will admit, Donald Trump is the perfect reflection of the United States of America. We couldn't ask for a mascot more reflective of our practiced values. He is the USA personified. All the toxic, antisocial traits we celebrate about ourselves: proud Greed, proud willfull ignorance, vanity, arrogance, all the - isms, unearned confidence, cruelty, gluttony, schadenfreude, nepotism, you might as well run him up a flag post and sing the star spangled banner while eating apple pie at a baseball game.

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[-] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 241 points 11 months ago

So we have a spare 10 billion for Israel, but not predatory studen loan debt relief for our own citizens? Sounds about right

[-] bender223@lemmy.today 81 points 11 months ago

pls, giving student loan debt relief instead of $10 billion to Israeli gov't is considered anti-Semitic 😔

[-] Maeve@kbin.social 42 points 11 months ago
[-] Land_Strider@lemmy.world 29 points 11 months ago

Free school lunch? Believe or not, straight into communism!

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[-] SCB@lemmy.world 52 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Military aid is generally not cash.

Now if you want to cut the military budget to do things at home, I'm all for that

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 36 points 11 months ago

I'll take a tank to pay my student debt

Please give me a tank to pay my student debt

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[-] AlwaysNowNeverNotMe@kbin.social 114 points 11 months ago

Go ahead and call him antisemitic just to close the loop.

[-] PugJesus@kbin.social 42 points 11 months ago

"There has never been a greater enemy of the Jewish people than Bernie Sanders." - Bibi simps ten seconds from now

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[-] arin@lemmy.world 91 points 11 months ago

We need more Bernie, really hope he has disciples or something. Man has decades of stamina fighting for the people

[-] GladiusB@lemmy.world 26 points 11 months ago

I think his movement has traction with the younger generation. Hopefully it motivates them and they keep it going.

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[-] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 81 points 11 months ago

Bro I just want some more bombs, please bro come on, I won't even do anything with them bro

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[-] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 66 points 11 months ago

I think that any country that has nukes should not be asking for handouts.

[-] interceder270@lemmy.world 33 points 11 months ago

And Israel is the only nation with nukes that gets to lie about having them.

Fuck Israel. Fuck zionists.

[-] NoSpiritAnimal@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago

Israel helped South Africa become a Nuclear armed state and supplied their apartheid government with weapons.

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[-] sndmn@lemmy.ca 65 points 11 months ago

Israel is perpetrating a holocaust.

[-] kromem@lemmy.world 38 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The word 'holocaust' goes back to a type of sacrifice in the Mediterranean where the animal bodies were burned in their entirety, coming from the Greek holos ('whole') and kaustos ('burnt').

We call what the Nazis did "the Holocaust" because they systematically killed and then burnt the bodies to ash in crematoriums.

So no, even if you think Israel is committing genocide in Palestine, they are not perpetuating a holocaust, unless they start gathering up the bodies of the dead and burning the majority of them to ash.

The Holocaust was a genocide, but not all genocides are a Holocaust (in fact, it was pretty much just the one).

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[-] Furbag@lemmy.world 65 points 11 months ago

Have they said what the 10bn would be used for? Because it seems like Israel doesn't need financial help glassing over Gaza if we're being honest. That 10bn could be used domestically to improve the lives of millions of people.

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[-] Toldry@lemmy.world 57 points 11 months ago

To be precise, Bernie opposes unconditional aid. He's not completely opposed to any aid to Israel whatsoever; He wants to stipulate the aid under the condition that the Israel government does more to safeguard the lives of uninvolved Palestinian civilians.

[-] elrik@lemmy.world 30 points 11 months ago

The entire article seems designed to confuse if not intentionally mislead the reader.

"Unconditional" certainly would have fit in the title.

Or, if not, it could have been added to the text below the title that instead juxtaposes Republican opposition as if to suggest Bernie has the same interests as Republicans.

Or, it could have at least been in the first paragraph where they state Bernie's opposition again.

But no, you have to read through nearly half the article to find that important qualifier in paragraph 5.

It's hard to imagine this is anything other than an attempt to misrepresent his position.

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[-] interceder270@lemmy.world 46 points 11 months ago

Israel can take it from their ruling class.

Israel has an intel fab, just to highlight how wealthy the nation is.

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[-] Estiar@lemmy.world 41 points 11 months ago

Israel doesn't really need the aid. They're doing just fine militarily

[-] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 38 points 11 months ago

But Berrnieeeee, there's still Palestinian children that haven't been bombed yet!!

[-] Nipplecreek@lemm.ee 31 points 11 months ago

They don't need aid they need to chillll

[-] Jaysyn@kbin.social 31 points 11 months ago

Me too Bernie, me too.

[-] kemsat@lemmy.world 30 points 11 months ago

Yeah, me too.

[-] ME5SENGER_24@lemm.ee 27 points 11 months ago

I oppose giving $.01 in aid. Sadly, like Senator Sanders, nobody’s gonna listen to me either. Sad but true.

[-] Syrc@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago

B-but in 2020 they told me he was a filthy jew who wanted to further the agenda of the jew reptilian deep state! How is this possible?!?

[-] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 22 points 11 months ago

in the GOP headquarters there's a metronome labelled "What we think of Jewish people". On one side, it says "precious, innocent white westerners who need our help in their exclusively defensive battle with the Islamic barbarians". On the other side it says "dastardly outsiders plotting the extinction of white westerners and the furtherance of the globalist agenda". The metronome is set to about 140 bpm.

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[-] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago

Was there serious talks about 10bil ??? To Israel???

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