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[-] PugJesus@kbin.social 0 points 11 months ago

Hey, man, I'm not disagreeing with that assessment of the general election. But unfortunately, he needed to win the Dem primary to get to that point, and in 2016, it would have taken Hillary dropping the n-bomb on live tv to get Bernie over the finish line. She had a lot of name recognition and organization, her reputation hadn't been completely cratered by losing to America's biggest loser at that point, and Bernie was borderline taken by surprise by his success in '16. Man had been preaching the same thing for 30 years and suddenly, almost out of nowhere, interest surged like a wave.

He was much more prepared in '20 (and had more name recognition to boot).

[-] deft@ttrpg.network 10 points 11 months ago

I don't disagree with Clinton coming in with more weight but I don't think she was ever that ahead of Sanders. The system in place, the DNC and other big players just preferred Hillary and that edge resulted in her win.

In a more fair race where the DNC was equally kind to Sanders or hostile to Clinton I think Sanders would've won it and we'd be such a different political landscape.

Clinton had a lot of shit that would've taken anyone out of the race but was granted extra lives by (what I see as) annoying shitty politicking bullshit.

[-] phillaholic@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

She had all those advantages in 2008 and Lost to Obama when more people voter for him than her. Quite simply Bernie received less votes than Hillary in 2016, and the endless list of excuses weren't unique to him. There is a massive bias online that Bernie was more popular than he was. He never beat Hillary in nationwide polls and had major holes in his strategy and campaign that he never over came. He's a great person, not a great politician.

[-] badbytes@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Primary was rigged by Hillary's friend Debbie of the DNC.

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