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Biden ‘not sure he’d be running’ in 2024 if Trump wasn’t: ‘We cannot let him win’
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I know that in reality most people probably would not want to become a president, but aren't there really competent / well regarded people who could replace both of them?
I know this is not US specific, it seems like for most countries you never have an option to vote for someone you really want to come in power, it is always about the least shitty option.
But can you name someone specific? The fact is, Trump is enormously popular with Republicans. Biden isn’t well liked by anyone right now, but who is the competent and well regarded alternative? Sanders, Warren, and AOC are divisive with the electorate. Harris and Buttigieg are even less popular. If there’s a consensus candidate, it’s not obvious to me.
I am not from US so do not really know your politics / possible candidates that well.
Is Trump really loved by most republicans / conservatives? Or is it just a very loud part of nutcases? Feels like most would vote for him just to keep democrats away same as democrats vote for someone like Biden, but it is hard to believe they actually love him, at best maybe tolerate him.
According to the polling, Trump enjoys 75-85% favorability amongst Republicans. So, unfortunately, it seems Republicans really do love Trump that much.
Why isn't Biden liked? What series of controversies did he get involved in that would make him seem like a lesser candidate to Trump?
I think the leading guesses are perceptions about his age, the economy, and his effectiveness. Biden’s favorability is similar to Trump’s at the same point in his presidency, which was, itself, one of the lowest in modern history.
It’s nonsensical but I’m not surprised. Even here on Lemmy, some people refuse to give Biden credit for anything. Cynicism is rampant on the left. I think those who are paying attention see that Biden is governing pretty progressively. Sanders recently said that, “I think he is a much more progressive president than he was a United States senator.”
It's nothing particularly specific. Conservatives hate him because they hate all Democrats. Leftists hate him because he's a milquetoast liberal at best. In fact, I was surprised by some of his policies being more progressive than expected, but he still comes with a long history that suggests otherwise.
The people who actually like him are middle of the road Democrats. There aren't enough of those to make a solid base of support. Biden's victory hinges on having enough people further to the left who know what a disaster another Trump Administration would be and vote for Biden despite misgivings.
It's Biden. You're wrong about whether he's liked. Well, not you, the polls, which are the basis of your entire argument.
The Rock 2024
The Rock's image had been so carefully manufactured over the last decade that I can't trust it. Can we not go with the populist candidate again? I'd much rather have someone boring and professional.
If we're going the celebrity route, we must go with someone who has never failed the public trust.
THanks24
Isn't that a catch 22 though? No matter who is president they will fail the public trust in one way shape or form. You are seeing our boy up for failure
Didn't Tom Hanks have his son forcefully abducted in the middle of the night and taken to a desert labor camp?