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i know im gonna get hated for this, but: fluoride tap water
God forbid we... checks notes... prevent tooth decay!
if only there were something we do twice a day to prevent that... oh well.
if you wanna protect your teeth that much then use fluoride mouthwash after you brush your teeth. you can even swallow it if you like.
It's an interesting discussion to have about consent/medical choices, but the fact is that many people don't have the knowledge/resources to go out and do that, and for them it's a benefit without proven drawbacks
Science says no
Fluoride is literal poison that everyone knew about until the chemical industry infiltrated the government to install politicians and university leaders to add it into drinking water to certain municipal water supplies without public knowledge
Ethanol is literal poison that everyone knew about. We still know ethanol and fluoride are poison, but we knew it too. /Hedberg>
To be consistent, we better stop drinking beer and using mouthwash!
Alcohol mouth wash is associated with oral cancer
-- Alcohol-based mouthwash as a risk factor of oral cancer: A systematic review
Oral application of ethanol is correlated with cancer, but statistically significant results are associated with heavy alcohol consumption, re-enforcing my point that dosage determines effect. If you already start the day with a whiskey breakfast, mouthwash isn't doing you any favors health-wise.
we dont drink mouthwash, genius. theres a difference between voluntarily drinking alcohol once in a while and having basically no option (depending on where you live) than drinking fluoride water everyday.
by all means, you can use mouthwash. i dont believe its poisonous to rinse your mouth, unlike drinking EVERY DAY
You don't need to drink it to have an effect. Ethanol is absorbed through the roof of your mouth.
The point I'm making is that dosage determines effect, and not all poison bio-accumulates in harmful ways. Lead does accumulate and no level of exposure is safe, but fluoride and ethanol are metabolized and harmless in small amounts, even in chronic exposure conditions like drinking water from non-naturally fluoridated sources.
There are natural sources of water that are geologically fluoridated and are toxic, but if it is being added intentionally under regulated conditions, then it is not toxic. Therefore, fluoride is poison but publicly fluoridated drinking water is not poisonous.
this doesnt address the point that alcohol and mouthwash is your own choice to drink/use. but tap water is the only option for a lot of people (except expensive and polluting bottled water). why should cities spend taxes on fluoridating water, just so people dont need to use mouthwash? should they do the same with essential vitamins as well? iron?
Because it's an example of good government, like cities spending money on public transportation. Sure, auto makers and dentists would benefit if they spent it on other things, but the health outcomes for treated water are worth +100x the amount paid for fluoridation.
The only benefit i see is probably fluoride possibly mineralizing any cracks in the lead pipes and preventing even more lead leeching into tap water. Lead pipes with lack of minerals in the water supply leech way more lead than lead pipes with minerals in the water. But using fluoride is not as good as calcium which we actually take supplements for. But no corporation wants to dump calcium for cheap, they want to dump fluoride which is toxic, win win for corporations at the cost of out drinking water which most poor people can't afford to filter out
I'm a poor person, and I'm certain fluoridated water has saved me thousands in dental bills over my lifetime. This is not some sinister corporate conspiracy to harm the poor.
I'm getting seriously tired of debunking fluoride misinformation. If you're not going to link to peer-reviewed science supporting your claims, you should stop posting.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6195894/table/t2-pnfs-23-171/?report=objectonly
Linking to a table of 'reasons given' in a paper covering the debate over fluoride as support for your ideas is the gish gallop-style abuse of science. You need to do better.
Nice you can read, go read it and educate yourself
That's pretty funny coming from someone that had to reach that far to find a source that "supports" their point.
There's no fluoridated water systems in many other countries and their dental cavity rates also got on par or better than fluoridated communities, so it's not the fluoride in tap water but the overall standards of hygiene. Fluoride creates strong bonds and like lead, the body does not get rid of it easily, it makes bones brittle as it deplaces calcium
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I think you sound stop watching Dr Strangelove
No idea what that is but Doctor Strange is a great Marvel movie series
It's a super old movie about ww2 and nukes, but there's a crazy ass general who goes on a rant about how fluoride in the water is a communist plot to taint our precious bodily fluids.
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I'm surprised that I think there's a small chance this isn't satire