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[-] NoSpiritAnimal@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago

Israel helped South Africa become a Nuclear armed state and supplied their apartheid government with weapons.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

Later, South Africa gave up their nukes, making them the only nuclear power to voluntarily disarm.

[-] frezik@midwest.social 12 points 11 months ago

Sort of. Ukraine had Soviet nukes, and gave them up for security guarantees with Russia. Libya and Iraq had also previously given up their weapons of mass destruction programs.

South Africa is the only one on the list that wasn't later invaded by a larger power. The Great Powers are teaching the smaller ones that if they give up their weapons of mass destruction programs, they'll get invaded later.

[-] bigFab@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

The only reason why north korea hasen't been flattened yet

[-] EatYouWell@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

NK has China backing them, so that's the main reason. Otherwise they're not really a threat.

[-] Syndic@feddit.de 1 points 11 months ago

That's silly. Between the end of the war and 2006 was quite some time for them to be attacked and yet nobody did. Even though they have been assholes about it the whole time. Them having thousands of artillery pieces aimed at Seoul worked just fine as a deterence without any nuke around. Big brother China also did help I guess.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Ukraine never had control of those nukes. They got a good deal to have them moved into Russian territory, but if Ukraine had wanted to keep the nukes, they'd have been attacking Russian soldiers to get them, and wouldn't have had the launch codes. Ukraine got the best deal they could under the circumstances, especially since the US wasn't particularly concerned about Ukraine at the time.

[-] neeshie@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

So what I'm hearing is whatever you do, do not give up your nukes. You will get invaded.

[-] netchami@sh.itjust.works 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Ukraine had Soviet nukes, and gave them up for security guarantees with Russia.

Ah yes, that worked out really well for Ukraine /s

Trusting Russia is a mistake

[-] joatmasterofnone@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Trusting the US or any of the other globalist/banker controlled Western countries isn't any less of a mistake.

But you know who did that? Went their own way away from the international bankers? Libya Iraq

Almost like THAT'S the reason they were invaded.

[-] netchami@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago

Nothing unusual, Israel hates human rights and loves war crime.

[-] joatmasterofnone@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

They also hate national stability. Notice how they want every other country to import the Middle East or South America but by golly you're a filthy anti-Zionist if you say Open Borders For Israel.

Fuck international bankers too

[-] netchami@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago

I am anti-zionist, as Zionists are anti-human rights, steal land from innocent people and see themselves as something better.

Kill all Zionists

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