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[-] sabreW4K3@lemmy.tf 8 points 11 months ago
[-] Flaky@iusearchlinux.fyi 28 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It basically means instead of relying on a bootloader (e.g. GRUB or systemd-boot) the computer boots the kernel directly. Generally there should be no change besides having to use the BIOS menu to manually select a kernel.

[-] sabreW4K3@lemmy.tf 2 points 11 months ago
[-] Flaky@iusearchlinux.fyi 9 points 11 months ago

No problem! :)

FWIW, a lot of the DIY distros (Arch and Gentoo being the ones on most minds) allow this already so it's nothing new. It's just Fedora implementing it that's new I guess. If you're curious, the term to search is "EFISTUB".

[-] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 1 points 11 months ago

Is the benifit making secure boot work better?

[-] Flaky@iusearchlinux.fyi 0 points 11 months ago

Presume so, that's what the article claims:

This latest UKI work for Fedora will lead to better UEFI Secure Boot support, better supporting TPM measurements and confidential computing, and a more robust boot process.

[-] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

That's nice, stuff like that does make dual booting harder unfortunately

[-] Flaky@iusearchlinux.fyi 1 points 11 months ago

I'd imagine that if you want a bootloader, the option is there as well. I can't imagine Fedora just doing away with that unless the bootloaders themselves are unmaintained.

[-] vanderbilt@beehaw.org 2 points 11 months ago

Yes, in my opinion. The configuration of grub (boot loader) is just another step to go wrong, and this will eliminate that possibility. Additionally, it will prevent stupider operating systems (cough Windows) from accidentally overwriting the boot loader during an update.

[-] sabreW4K3@lemmy.tf 0 points 11 months ago

Does that mean that the OS would have to handle version booting?

[-] vanderbilt@beehaw.org 2 points 11 months ago

My understanding is that’s a yes.

[-] sabreW4K3@lemmy.tf 1 points 11 months ago
[-] duncesplayed@lemmy.one 2 points 11 months ago

I think for most people they won't care either way.

Some people do legitimately occasionally need to poke around in GRUB before loading the kernel. Setting up certain kernel parameters or looking for something on the filesystem or something like that. For those people, booting directly into the kernel means your ability to "poke around" is now limited by how nice your motherboard's firmware is. But even for those people, they should always at least have the option of setting up a 2-stage boot.

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