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submitted 11 months ago by Maven@lemmy.world to c/196@lemmy.blahaj.zone

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[-] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 28 points 11 months ago

The one and only reason I use discord is because it's pretty ubiquitous in the tech industry, and I'm a union organizer at a tech company.

[-] CustodialTeapot@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago

Then do better. If you're a Union organiser, you should know to push the better options rather than kneel to the "WELL MOST PEOPLE DO X" BS.

[-] LesserAbe@lemmy.world 43 points 11 months ago

This is a very juvenile response. If you're trying to organize people, it's hard enough to get them to do one specific action, you don't add in a bunch of other steps that don't directly contribute to the goal. You want to remove every barrier.

For example, if you want people to sign a petition and you're going door to door, you bring a clipboard with the paper, pens, and supporting literature. You don't tell them to go to a website, or print out a document themselves. You definitely don't demand they move to a new neighborhood where the doors are closer together and all at street level.

Discord is bullshit, and I'd love to see everyone move away from it. But you've got to keep things in perspective and think about what your primary goals are.

[-] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

Took the words right out of my mouth. We tried to migrate to signal, it was an abject failure.

[-] BautAufWasEuchAufbaut@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It's more important to reach people, don't you think?
Although I agree a bridge would be the nice thing to do

[-] CustodialTeapot@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Reach then educate then. Don't settle, literally why Lemmy/Pub exists. I feel @Rockslayer isn't a union organiser. Or if they are, they're a very poor one with that attitude/mindset.

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 14 points 11 months ago

I feel @Rockslayer isn’t a union organiser. Or if they are, they’re a very poor one with that attitude/mindset.

Or maybe they know how to pick their battles? Yeah Discord isn't ideal, but is it really so bad that it's worth the significant effort it would take to try and get people to switch, compared to all the other things they could be spending their effort on?

That's a decision only they can make for themselves. And your condescending attitude does nothing but reflect poorly on you.

[-] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Tell me, how do you simultaneously organize people and convince them to use foss? I'm genuinely asking, because we tried to migrate to an open platform and it didn't work at all. We need to be where the people are so we can organize and form our union, not the other way around. The alternative to being where the people are is standing unmovingly on my principles and failing to successfully organize. Don't point fingers if you've never tried it.