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[-] penquin@lemm.ee 69 points 2 years ago

Capitalism and its endless profit motive should never be near the things that have direct effect on people's well-being and livelihood. All the human basic necessities should be capitalism free, housing, healthcare, education.... etc... If you want to built a better and healthier nation of course, but no one cares about the nation, money is above everything to these sick fucks.

[-] calypsopub@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I kind of agree, but has this ever been done successfully? It seems to me at some point you disincentivize work to the point it all collapses

[-] penquin@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago

It's social democracy. It's a slight socialism under a capitalist umbrella where social services are untouched by capitalism. All of Europe operates this way.

[-] Maladius@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It's a fair question. The first universal basic income experiments have just begun in the last few years. Based on this article there's been a little success at least.
https://globalaffairs.org/bluemarble/multiple-countries-have-tested-universal-basic-income-and-it-works

I think we're only recently getting to a level of technology that we need less human workforce and can still prosper when inevitably some choose not to work.

[-] calypsopub@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Thanks, I am in favor of UBI, but like anything else I think the cost of everything will just rise to eat it up. With various trials going on, we should have better data soon

[-] AutistoMephisto@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

But like, you bring up "human basic necessities" and soon the old arguments about Maslow's Hierarchy rear their ugly head.

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