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[-] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

Facebook, Twitter and now Threads. Have no interest and zero use for that stuff.

Self driving cars or honestly the majority of car tech introduced in the last 5 years or so, such a lane keeping assist or other drivers "aids" which ultimately seem to distract drivers more than ever help them.

[-] mortrek@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

Only thing I left on in my newish car is the lane change/blind spot warning and the "you are about to ram someone" alarm. Can't remember the official names. They rarely actually help, but when they do, it can mean avoiding a collision.

[-] shiroininja@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

the blind spot detector is a game changer for SUVs and other vehicles with limited visibility. I don't feel safe without it anymore.

[-] flucksy_bango@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I drive a 2006 Corolla.

How bad are you at driving that you need a computer to let you know when you need to pay attention?

[-] mortrek@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Lol that's rude. I drove a 94 Corolla for like 20 years. Regardless of what an expert driver like you thinks, these sort of safety features are useful. Not often, and usually one would notice the issue without them and avoid a collision, but there's that occasional situation where they can save your life.

[-] flucksy_bango@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I'm sorry for being rude. I must have been in a bad mood.

I'm not an expert driver, just a careful one. I've never had any driver assistance at all and don't really see the need for them unless you're distracted while driving.

Like, the only way they'd save my life is if they could avoid a front end collision, getting t-boned, or rear ended. They just seem annoying to me.

[-] philpo@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

It depends how you use car assistance devices. It you drink Musk's cooldaid about the autopilot it's bullshit. People who use these technologies to do something else/let them get distracted are idiots and tbh, should be punished severely.

But there is ample scientific data that e.g. radar based speed control/adaptive cruise control does reduce injury rates as it let people stay focused for longer as less concentration is used.

Basically you have a (individual )envelope of concentration/focus that you can stay reasonably focused. The time limit how long you can do so is influenced by ones general mental condition, experience, individual constitution on that day, driving circumstances, time, etc. On average it is around 2.5h.

With well designed assistance systems this period can be prolonged by up to 1h, 45min on average and cases where we have a bad day profit more. And as we are all idiots who think we can drive 4h/5h/6h/+X straight the time we are not concentrated enough is reduced significantly.

And of course there are pure security oriented systems that simply do things better than humans - automatic obstacle recognition and breaking systems are a good example. There is literally a kid not being injured or dead because my car has one (as it is the European law by now) - crossed a inner city street without looking, between two large vans parked on the side... No chance to see the kid. And even with 30km/h a full front collision can kill. The car was brought to a full stop before I even recognised what happend.

Source: one of my best friends is a researcher on that topic for a major university.

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