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[-] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

I think you're confused about thought - it's got nothing to do with anything I said.

Making threats, triggering a stampede, downloading CSAM, and participating in a group whose objective is are all actions with tangible consequences.

What's the utility in protecting these things? As far as organised crime organisations go, what's more serious than genocide?

[-] DeltaTangoLima@reddrefuge.com 1 points 11 months ago

Making threats, triggering a stampede, downloading CSAM, and participating in a group whose objective is are all actions with tangible consequences.

You're making my point. Banning these things is not the same thing as censorship.

[-] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Stopping people from saying something, and literally censoring CSAM isn't censorship - got it.

[-] DeltaTangoLima@reddrefuge.com 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

You're oversimplifying. What we're talking about is censorship that attempts to control what people think and the freedom to express their thoughts.

Neither of the things you just mentioned could be considered the free expression of thought or speech - they are acts that result in the harm of others, and should be prosecuted as such.

Causing a stampede by shouting fire in a crowded theatre is not the same thing as expression of free speech.

Likewise, as disgusting as it is, having paedophilic thoughts is not a crime in and of itself, but searching for, distributing, and downloading CSAM are most certainly criminal acts. And rightly so.

[-] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

I don't know what you're trying to control for, but I'm trying to stop genocidal groups from consultating power. You've got nothing to contribute other than hoping there's someone left to hold the genocidal dipshits to account after they've committed that genocide.

Causing a stampede by shouting fire in a crowded theatre is not the same thing as expression of free speech.

You're stopping that expression - it's censorship. It might be censorship you like, but you can't pretend it's not censorship.

distributing, and downloading CSAM are most certainly criminal acts. And rightly so.

Again, this is squarely within the definition of censorship. I don't know why you'd raise the legality in a discussion of morality - surely you don't think legalising genocide would make it acceptable.

Banning membership of a group that aims to oppress and kill huge groups of people is a pro-freedom move.

Please don't make me put a dictionary in front of you.

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