167
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
this post was submitted on 10 Dec 2023
167 points (84.4% liked)
politics
19144 readers
1352 users here now
Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!
Rules:
- Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.
Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.
Example:
- Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
- Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
- No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
- Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
- No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.
That's all the rules!
Civic Links
• Congressional Awards Program
• Library of Congress Legislative Resources
• U.S. House of Representatives
Partnered Communities:
• News
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
There's lots and lots and lots of people who aren't Republicans who also don't like her.
Again. She pulled more votes than Trump. I am sure that a lot of men of all stripes don't like accomplished and assertive women.
Oh she pulled more votes than the complete joke of a human being that no one thought could ever possibly win? Amazing.
Except that she lost to a reality TV grifter. Keep pushing that people that don't like her are sexist though, it worked so well last time.
How the Hillary Clinton campaign deliberately "elevated" Donald Trump with its "pied piper" strategy
mission accomplished! ;)
She also won a Senate seat, but I won't confuse you with the facts.
So did Mitch McConnell. What does that have to do with her being likeable? Or are you just going to keep moving the goal posts?
So, if she can win the majority of votes in state and nationwide elections, that makes her popular in my book. I doubt she'll become a public face of the campaign in any case. It'll be more strategic than that. They'll pick and choose how they use her and Obama.
She won the majority of votes in a nationwide election when the only other viable option was Trump, and still lost.
Biden isn't even popular, he just isn't Trump.
Yup, that electoral college is something isn't it? I am not too concerned about Biden's popularity.
Glossing over the fact that she received the majority of votes purely because her opponent was repulsive to most Americans, now that's something!
Kinda like how you're trying to gloss over everything about an entire person?
Yeah, pity she didn't account for it.
Maybe Bernie would have pulled votes where it mattered and won, but we'll never know because it was her turn or some bullshit.
I'm a process believer. If you can't get enough momentum to win primaries, you can't expect to win the general. Bernie didn't, it's plain as that.
Particularly the part of the process where the party doesn't have to adhere to its own primary rules.
Pretty hard to get momentum when your own party is undercutting you and playing unfairly, but go ahead and keep thinking everything was on the up and up
You're never going to convince these true believers that the DNC is corrupt, and regularly rigs the system in favor of neo-liberal candidates. They can't admit they are suckers for the same kind of brand loyalty and fetishization of party that exists on the right.
Bernie is an Independent. It's not his party.
Which process? The one where Debbie Wasserman Schultz puts her thumb on the scale for Hillary's benefit?
Big Bernie fan. I agree with you, Bernie couldn't draw enough people sadly.
Big Bernie fan. I disagree on your wording. Bernie probably couldn't draw enough people. Unfortunately the Democratic Party in collusion with Hillary's campaign denied the people the right to vote in an impartial election, so it's impossible to know.
Hillary probably didn't need to tamper with the election to win, but she did tamper with the election. Moreover in doing so she handed the presidency to the authoritarian toddler that she elevated as a pied piper. She's directly responsible for Trump gaining power. She needs to stay the hell away from US politics, she's done more than enough harm.
Any evidence would be appreciated, otherwise it just feels like speculation or Russian propaganda("DNC screwed Bernie, vote 3rd party or vote Trump to show DNC you disapprove of their actions")
Are you serious right now? You've never once bothered to look at the events of the 2016 primary, but you're happy to call any disagreement propaganda?
Literally all you have to do is Google "Clinton pied piper" and "Clinton primary tampering" and you'll find countless articles talking about it.
Again, a lot of people voted for her because they disliked Trump and the only way to keep him from winning was to vote for her. That's the only reason I voted for her: Anyone else other than Trump.
It really doesn't matter.
You don't have to like someone to vote for them. Especially given the alternative.