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[-] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 179 points 11 months ago

Let me be clear, I don't actually despise her very much. That being said, she's a fucking albatross for the Democrats. The 30 year campaign to vilify her by conservatives has been very successful. I wish she would stay out of this.

[-] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 96 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Nah, she's an idiot who goes around giving lucrative Rah-Rah speeches to fucking Wall Street Banks mid-campaign, and also acted super entitled to the Office (like it was "her turn" lol). She villifies herself sufficiently and necessarily without the externalities

[-] protist@mander.xyz 41 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Porque no los dos? To be clear, I don't think she's an "idiot" at all. She's very intelligent, and is a good statesperson. I do think she lacks a sense of cultural awareness that leads to her saying and doing things that come off pretentious and entitled, AND the right has been trying to destroy her career since the early 90s

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[-] GONADS125@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago

Yeah I regret not voting for her over trump, but I viewed both of them as trash candidates. The DNC corruption to support her over Bernie left me bitter and I couldn't stomach casting a vote for a chronic lying career politician in the pocket of the banks.

I have never been a Biden fan either, viewing him as a career politician who was always regarded as a centrist (e.g., drug policy) before the political spectrum went full tilt to the right. But I happily voted for Biden over trump and will vote for any candidate over him. I can also acknowledge the good Biden's presidency has done.

But Hillary Clinton is the biggest reason trump won. She is so unlikable and far from a progressive or honest politician. I would've voted for any other dem candidate back in 2016. It was the first election I could vote in, but I abstained when my decision was between a giant douche and a shit sandwich. Most people I knew in college at the time felt the same way. She never had the support of young adults.

As much as I hated the trump presidency, at the same time, I was selfishly satisfied seeing her lose after the DNC/Debbie Wasserman Schultz scandal and Hillary Clinton's pompous, obnoxious entitlement and "It's my turn!" mentality. Let's not forget that she and Bill Clinton were also friends with epstein and trump, and were in the same social circles before the 2016 run...

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[-] PrinceWith999Enemies@lemmy.world 46 points 11 months ago

The problem I see is that she matters absolutely zero. There is no person in the United States who would be influenced by Clinton who was not already a Biden voter. She’s also not going to scare away anyone who feels like they have to hold their nose and vote for Biden. She’s not going to win or lose any Trump voters. She’s not going to win or lose any Stein voters. I think the only person this is going to help is Clinton.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago

Bet she tries running again in 2028, as everyone's latest only possible choice.

[-] BestBouclettes@jlai.lu 14 points 11 months ago

If they still have elections by then, possibly

[-] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 12 points 11 months ago

Hillary '28: It's supposed to be my turn now...

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[-] akilou@sh.itjust.works 19 points 11 months ago

She should stay in and endorse Trump.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

The heads of some of the worst people from the bases of both parties would explode and there would be a critical popcorn shortage within days if not hours as demand skyrocketed.

I'm here for it 😆

[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

Oh fuck that. The Republicans didn't force her to rig the nomination race with Deb whatshername.

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[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 86 points 11 months ago
[-] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 58 points 11 months ago

I'm planning to vote for Biden I don't need her to talk me out of it lol

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[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 75 points 11 months ago

Oh, that explains the "fuck you, you're voting for us" messaging.

[-] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 73 points 11 months ago

Biden re-election campaign worst optics in political history speedrun any%

[-] IDontHavePantsOn@lemm.ee 20 points 11 months ago

"Hi this is adult film star Brandi Maxxx..."

[-] Erasmus@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

At this point she would probably garner a few more votes for him.

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[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 58 points 11 months ago

Please tell her to stop. Nobody needs this kind of help.

[-] massive_bereavement@kbin.social 13 points 11 months ago

Oh you want to get water out of your boat? Let me help you with this drill.

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[-] agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 52 points 11 months ago

Holy shit are they trying to lose?

[-] thorbot@lemmy.world 31 points 11 months ago

Cool let's just make our odds to get Biden back even fucking worse. Fuck sakes, can't this bitch just crawl into a hole somewhere and disappear

[-] neidu@feddit.nl 25 points 11 months ago

This is the same woman who thought bringing in Henry Kissinger with her made her more electable.

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[-] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 24 points 11 months ago

I'm not American but what I have seen of her (Not much) gives me Dolores Umbridge vibes from Potter, she even kinda looks like her. So probably a bad thing but won't hurt Biden more than supporting a genocide at least.

[-] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 46 points 11 months ago

She has absolutely zero charisma, just not a likeable or trustworthy individual.

It honestly amazes me the calibre of candidate America has been able to put forward the last few years, you have either Hillary, or a selection of coffin dodgers.

[-] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 19 points 11 months ago

That's because the ruling class is a bunch of zombies running the earth into the ground for profit. You have to be a soulless goul to get approval to run for office. There are zero new ideas or vision, just greed vampires.

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[-] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago

She's not evil, just milquetoast.

An unlikable career politician that people are tired of hearing from and about.

[-] Zehzin@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago

Henry Kissinger died and now she's after a new ancient war criminal.

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[-] PseudoSpock@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 11 months ago

Oh god, she is NOT a help. She's how we got Trump in the first place. We really need her to stay out of the news from now on.

[-] meyotch@slrpnk.net 18 points 11 months ago

Yeah, thanks, we’re good.

[-] h3mlocke@lemm.ee 17 points 11 months ago

Go away Hilldawg

[-] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 15 points 11 months ago

Some would say it's the kiss of death. We'll see.

"Clinton is popular with women and key parts of the Democratic base and remains a fundraising draw who can help ensure Biden has the money to get his message out…”

“Clinton’s role is only expected to grow in the new year, but for now, she is filling a space that at a later point in the campaign season former President Barack Obama will join. Obama’s habit is to plunge in closer to Election Day — a reality that rankles some Democratic strategists who say the party sorely needs him right now.”

[-] FranklinsBeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 11 months ago

Honestly, Clinton is so politically irrelevant, I didn't know she was involved in his campaign to begin with. Plus, she's been wildly unpopular her whole career. How exactly does this hurt Biden? If anything, I'd think it'll help him not to have any involvement with the Clintons

[-] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 16 points 11 months ago

Plus, she's been wildly unpopular her whole career

She's been wildly unpopular with Republicans her entire career. Let's not forget that she got more votes than Trump.

[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 26 points 11 months ago

There's lots and lots and lots of people who aren't Republicans who also don't like her.

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[-] PugJesus@kbin.social 12 points 11 months ago

She actually had good approval ratings as Secretary of State, for a bit. Helped that she didn't have to talk to us hoi polloi in that position, which she is... not good at.

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[-] vagrantprodigy@lemmy.whynotdrs.org 14 points 11 months ago

What women is Clinton popular with? Those over 70?

[-] cybersandwich@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago

It doesn't even matter. She will galvanize some Republicans that might otherwise not vote. That's a problem. Let them sit out. Don't rile them up by getting involved. I blame Hillary for Trump.

She's awful.

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[-] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

"Democratic Strategists" is an oxymoron. They haven't done an intelligent thing since the 90's. Obama actually happened in spite of the Democratic party.

[-] Pratai@lemmy.ca 15 points 11 months ago

Voting against the orange dictator regardless. So her involvement won’t sway me a bit.

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