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[-] NaoPb@eviltoast.org 56 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

What I dislike about phones these days is notches in the screen and my hands cramping up from the huge screen size combined with how slim the device is.

I just want to be able to hold my phone in one hand and control it that way like I could do with an iphone 4s, though would prefer an android phone.

[-] brax@sh.itjust.works 18 points 11 months ago

What I dislike is the constant stripping of features lately - between OEMs stripping stuff like SD card support, and box contents like ear buds and wallwarts; and Google stripping core features like the ability to cat system logs... It's getting fucking dumb.

[-] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 16 points 11 months ago

These companies learned their lesson with the open BIOS of pc's preventing them from really controlling DRM.

Android, not having a standardized BIOS, really gives them the opportunity to provide devices they can fully control.

If you can't unlock boot, you can't root, so you can't fully control the device.

That's the long-term goal: get people used to devices they don't actually control.

Lots of people already don't know the massive difference between using a full desktop app and a limited mobile app, many actually prefer the mobile because it's simpler! (I admit I do too, for certain use cases and maybe day-to-day use, but not for all use).

And then all the people who argue against having root access on your own device. 🤦‍♂️

There are good arguments for much of what Google does to improve Android security, it's just very frustrating to know their real agenda is to lock us out.

Fortunately, businesses will always need MDM (Mobile Device Management), which will require root access in some fashion, and there are already Open Source/low cost/free versions of MDM out there, and plenty of smart devs always working on root, like Magisk by topjohnwu and the new KernelSU by tiann (which gets root at the kernel level!)

[-] janguv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 11 months ago

For as long as Magisk has been going, that's been my root strategy. I'm new to hearing about KernelSU though. Any advantages?

[-] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I'm not the best person to ask, but I think the difference is where each obtains root perms.

Magisk gets root by modifying the boot image, while KernelSU modifies the Linux Kernel. I think being in the kernel it'll be harder to detect and it'll be more stable, protected from system updates.

Plus the kernel is more constant across devices, it really doesn't change much from what I understand. My boot image is different per version of Android, but I think the kernel doesn't change.

Most Android updates take place in what I'd call the Android Subsystem, since it's really a shell on top of Linux.

That's what I've been able to glean so far, but I'm no developer.

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