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[-] Chriswild@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

I wouldn't doubt if a percentage were. But is Cuba keeping itself isolated to where people have to defect despite no active war or combat? The US has probably closer to a million doctors from outside the US. The US relies on immigration to survive with slowing population growth and an aging population.

[-] solariplex@slrpnk.net 20 points 11 months ago

It's very misleading to say that "Cuba is keeping itself isolated". Each year the UN votes to end the embargo/isolation imposed on Cuba by the US, with the vast majority of countries voting in favour of ending the blockade each time.

In the latest vote, in November, only Israel and USA voted against ending the blockade. Ukraine abstained. 187 member states voted in favour of ending the blockade

Make no mistake, the US is what has kept Cuba unjustly isolated for the past decades. Source: https://news.un.org/en/story/2023/11/1143112

The US sees anything that could shake their narrative of the world as a threat, even when that 'threat' is unfounded, and they massively abuse their economic and military power around the globe to keep others in line.

[-] Chriswild@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Are you saying I said what you quoted?

Because I am implying what you are saying by asking about the Cuban embargo being imposed on Cuba.

[-] solariplex@slrpnk.net 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I'm not a native English speaker, so there may be some nuance I miss out on. But as far as I can tell, the implication of what you wrote was

  • "Cuba is isolated because it wants to be"
  • "Doctors are fleeing Cuba in large numbers"
  • "Conditions are bad in Cuba"
  • "The US gets alot of doctors from abroad"

I have good knowledge on point 1, limited knowledge on points 2&4, and somewhat decent info about point 2. I'm not disputing points 2,3&4.

[-] Chriswild@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Some real death of the author type shit. I said only number 4 and I agree with your positions. I'm sure you know that questions aren't statements.

I am disagreeing with them about Cuban doctors. I think the Cuban embargo is an atrocity and a disgrace and that the US (as an American) has many doctors from different nations so why does the small number of Cuban doctors matter.

Again, the only implication you listened that's true is number 4 and that's because it's not an implication, I actually said that.

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