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New Yorkers march on Wall St. to demand an end to US funding of Israel : Peoples Dispatch (peoplesdispatch.org)
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People in New York City once again took to the streets to demand a permanent ceasefire in Israel’s war on Gaza and an end US aid to Israel. Protesters marched from Foley Square to NYC City Hall, Wall Street, and Washington Square Park to raise their demands. The protest took place as the United Nations Security Council was voting on a ceasefire resolution, which was vetoed by the United States.

The protest was called for by the Shut It Down for Palestine Coalition, composed of several organizations including the International Peoples’ Assembly, the Palestinian Youth Movement, the ANSWER Coalition, and National Students for Justice in Palestine, and dozens of other local New York City organizations.

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[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 0 points 11 months ago

Yes. Unless you have hard numbers or evidence Hamas leadership intended to cause civilian casualties we go with innocent until proven guilty. I mean hell why would the leadership want innocents killed? That's just bad press, and they're more useful as hostages.

[-] TheFonz@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

There's plenty of evidence. What are you smoking? I have to ask are you trolling?

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 0 points 11 months ago

Evidence like what?

[-] TheFonz@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Yeah, so you're completely unaware or trolling, I can't tell. Hamas has been launching rockets into civilian area indiscriminately since forever. Hamas has sent suicide bombers into public areas with civilians for the past last thirty years. The attack on the music festival with two hundred teens and young adults killed was not the act of some lone wolf. Please tell me you're trolling because I can't believe people are this uninformed.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social -3 points 11 months ago

I was talking about the current attack. And the music festival is still strictly in fog of war territory. There are people Hamas soldiers killed, that's undeniable, but there are also people who were killed by reckless IDF fire and people who simply died in the crossfire.

[-] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 2 points 11 months ago

We have at least some numbers. Last I checked (which I admit was weeks ago) the death toll in Gaza was 11,000 and Israel claimed to have killed 60-80 Hamas fighters. That's over 99% civilian deaths, and we know a significan portion of those are children. On October 7th, Palestinian militant groups killed about 1,200 people in Israel, 859 of them civilians. That's over 71% civilian deaths, ignoring the fact that most Israeli adults are reservists and so trained fighters.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I meant civilians people who were intentionally killed by Hamas (there's a significant number people who died in the crossfire or to reckless IDF fire), but yeah this too.

Also the death toll topped 18k.

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