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[-] sqgl@beehaw.org 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

This was far down in the story therefore many of you may have missed it...

We do know that some of these men were released after having been detained initially. One of Hani's cousins was released after a couple of hours in detention. So it may be that many of these men that we've seen in these videos have since been released by Israel...

This is northern Gaza we're talking about. They were given an evacuation order, and it might be that the Israelis feel anyone who remains poses a threat because they didn't leave.

[-] tryptaminev@feddit.de 8 points 11 months ago

Evacuation order is quite a weak argument,given that Israep heavily bombards the areas people are told to evacuate to as well as target people moving south on the designated "safe" routes. And even after that, all there is left in southern Gaza are overcrowded tent cities.

It is pervectly human to want to stay in your home if the alternatives arent any safet.

[-] sqgl@beehaw.org 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Israel heavily bombards the areas people are told to evacuate to as well

You got evidence of that? I don't trust the ruling party of Israel but I have yet to see evidence of this. Find it and you will see me reproducing it in these forums to shame the IDF.

[-] DdCno1@beehaw.org 3 points 11 months ago

Israel never promised that the safe zones would not be bombed. These zones were meant to protect civilians from the bulk of the ground fighting. Nothing more, nothing less. Hamas is still present in these "safe" zones, they are fighting rockets from there, keeping hostages and their commanders in these places.

Israel did not target people moving South. Hamas themselves have blown up and shot people trying to flee in order to prevent their "human shields" from leaving. Conveniently, they then blamed Israel, even though we have an IED that looks nothing like an Israeli bomb on video.

It is true that fleeing your home is never easy and that the conditions in the South are terrible, but being poor and alive in a tent is still better than being with your possessions in your home (but dead) in the North.

[-] sqgl@beehaw.org 2 points 11 months ago

And it is perfectly sensible to vet those who remained if the alternative isn't safe for the soldiers trying to root out Hamas.

Not that I think rooting them out is a realistic goal without depopulating all of Gaza which unfortunately looks like the plan.

[-] sqgl@beehaw.org 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

it seems that they have gone from house to house, apartment to apartment and arrested all of the men who remain.

We just happened to see that video and then: Oh, crap. This is my brother; this is my nephew.

Is the journalist seriously implying this was unnecessary because the IDF could root out Hamas by just asking family members?

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