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It's been awhile since I did any frontend work. Is there something that has taken jQuery's place?

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[-] realharo@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Custom template language and custom DOM attributes are way weirder than just using language-native constructs (ternary operator, map/filter, variables, functions, etc.) directly like you can in JSX.

[-] kameecoding@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

nah mate,mixing html into js is fucked, no matter how hard you cope.

[-] realharo@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Still better than whatever the hell this is

https://vuejs.org/guide/essentials/template-syntax

The more you scroll down, the worse it gets.

And this too: https://vuejs.org/guide/essentials/list

A new separate language with features that already existed in the original language (and worked with all its tooling, etc.)

[-] kameecoding@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

template syntax is a piece of cake, takes literally 2 hours to learn everything you need and you can easily see what's where and how the html will look when it's rendered or not.

and the list rendering? you are literally pointing out the best features of vue.

[-] realharo@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

But why bother with creating a new language, and duplicating all the features your language already has, in a weird way?

If I want a list of UI items based on an array of some data, I can just do items.map(item => 〈Item key={item.id} item={item} /〉), using the normal map function that's already part of the language.

Or I can use a function, e.g. items.map(item => renderItem(item, otherData)) etc.

JSX itself is a very thin layer that translates to normal function calls.

[-] spartanatreyu@programming.dev 4 points 11 months ago

But why bother with creating a new language

I can just do items.map(item => 〈Item key={item.id} item={item} /〉)

I don't think this is a very good example. You've just said not to use a new language, then used JSX, a new language.

[-] kameecoding@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

but how do you know what renderItem does? where will the items end up?

we are visual creatures.

if I see a I know it's doing a list item for every object in given list.

it's literally just html with a few added stuff, v-if to determine whether it's rendered, v-for for iteration, dynamic class bindings and event listener bindings.

templating has also been around for a while for a reason it's solid tech, thymeleaf and jsf/primefaces being prime examples.

[-] realharo@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Well you don't have to place it in a separate function, nothing stops you from inlining that part and writing li or whatever directly there.

It's up to you how you organize your components.

[-] spartanatreyu@programming.dev 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

DOM attributes are built for browsers and frameworks to take advantage of.

The style of some of those frameworks to stick symbols in there is downright weird. But that only goes against those particular frameworks. It doesn't impact how good DOM attributes actually are.

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