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Ignorance or enlightenment?
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this post was submitted on 12 Dec 2023
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Am I out of the loop? I didn't think being a straight edge was something to be proud of. I feel like it includes a good amount of intolerance and judgement. It's this not the case?
Edit: man, I was expressing my impression from what I've read on the Internet and asking for more information. I wasn't expecting to get down voted for trying to understand better
I don't know if people are proud of it. Most people that I have known that are straight edge just don't want to do drugs or alcohol. I haven't known them to be judgemental of others who do, to each their own.
According to a punk guy I used to work with the straight edge movement originally had a nonjudgmental camp and an extremely judgemental camp. Can’t too much speak to that claim myself as I’ve never been on the punk scene but he was in general a trustworthy dude which leads me to believe there’s at least something to it even if it’s not quite right. But again I’m not in the punk scene so maybe I’m regurgitating bullshit
Maybe the non judgemental ones doesn't post on social media and the judgies are the ones that originally gave me the impression and down voted me :shrug:
The vocal minority can really skew perception
The og judgementals could just be old too, I’m in my late 30s and these guys are a decade older than me
I just don't care to put substances in my body that are effectively toxic. If you think, being high at all times is the best way to live life, then more power to you.
Really, it's annoying that people think we're judgemental. I'm guessing, lots of folks judge themselves for it, but as long as everyone else does the drugs, they aren't confronted with that.
As soon as I dare to exist, not putting toxic substances into my body, they'll feel judged, because I'm adhering to their moral standard of not doing drugs, effectively reminding them that it would be doable.
If I come up with some bullshit reasoning, like I'm the designated driver, rather than the truth that I just don't want it, they'll feel more at ease. Although, I guess, that would also be the case, if they truly thought I was actively judging them.
I have friends that don't drink and don't do drugs. Neither of my adult children do (18 and 20). I think it's great. I don't fathom why question was down voted. I think it's awesome that you you don't succumb to the pressures of society an live your life in a way that makes you happy. Keep kicking ass ❤️
Your question might have been downvoted, because people (including me) read it the wrong way.
I thought, you were saying people shouldn't be proud of being straight edge.
And your reasoning:
..., I thought, was supposed to say that you think people, who are straight edge, are themselves very intolerant and judgemental.
Words can just be ambiguous, I guess.
Thank you for pointing that out. I appreciate the additional point of view
Yeah, I'm proud that I have self control and have maintained a lifestyle that many people fail at. I'm proud to be associated with a community of people that live the same way. It's better than being proud of how much booze you can down or how high you can get.
I guess it was people like you that gave me the impression I got from reading posts on the Internet
Yeah, this seems so oddly judgmental and weird lol. Like I don't go on roller-coasters, so fuck everyone that does I'm better than them because I'm a roller-coaster virgin