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Man flies from Denmark to Los Angeles with no passport or plane ticket
(www.theguardian.com)
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I've never been to Denmark nor do I know a lot about it. How strict is it enforcing airport security?
It's got to be as good as anywhere else within Europe BC of shared borders.
He defenetly had help from the inside. I mean I can't fly from Greece to Portugal without showing my id 2 times at least
I have been flying in the EU/schengen around 100 times in the last ten years. I have shown my ID very few times:
Outside of that, I have never shown my ID to anyone when flying in the EU/schengen. I've only been to Portugal once though, but no ID check, and never been to Greece.
Online pre-boarding and automatic boarding gates, you barely even have a member of staff looking at you, let alone ask you for ID.
Weird the gate staff always asks me for id. And when I'm doing my baggage check in too
I guess it depends heavily on the airport. But gate staff usually say "have your ID and boarding card ready", but then its just that I scan the boarding card myself anyway. I usually do not check in luggage, if that is what you mean, and if I do, there are automatic dropoffs in a lot of places, and those that are serviced by staff just checks boarding card. Security gates only check boarding card. During covid lockdowns, some required that you upload your ID for online check-in, but I have not seen that since.
Right, but for nonEU trips you have to exit the Schengen zone, which comes with passport control, I have no idea how one can avoid that
Absolutely. That is really puzzling in this story.
I fly within the EU almost weekly, never had to show my ID. I think it’s very dependent on airline/country, and the individual standing at the gate, if they actually ask for it (though they of course can).
Same as everywhere else in the EU and with an extra layer of security on flights to the US like in many other countries.
Must have been the mistake of individuals and not the overall security.
Hm. Should I state the obvious? If the individuals are part of the system, then the whole system is compromised. Or as the saying goes "security is only as strong as the weakest link," and someone put those "individual links" out there without enough vetting.
So, yes, it was the mistake of the overall security.
Security is there to make sure you're not carrying illegal stuff, as long as that's fine, the only time they maybe check the id is before giving you the boarding pass.
Looks like the guy didn't have a boarding pass altogether, so not sure how he got into the plane.
There is usually a person or an automatic gate that checks your pass before allowing you through the plane. However that's more like a ticket check and to make sure people don't get on the wrong planes, it's probably not super hard to get around.