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[-] Mewtwo@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 1 year ago

Don't subscribe to lemmy.ml, the owner is a pro CCP. I unsubbed from all .ml communities.

[-] Candelestine@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

People are allowed to support whatever political causes they wish, so long as they are willing to engage civilly and fairly with other people. This is how the modern world works, with dialogue and debate instead of censorship, cowardly avoidance and control.

[-] 73ms@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago

Well, people are also absolutely free to choose not to associate with, use services from people whose opinions they find objectionable etc. Nothing wrong with that.

[-] Candelestine@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Of course they are. But once they start telling other people what to do, they are doing a different thing from that, are they not?

[-] 73ms@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

They're just expressing an opinion just like the Lemmy devs have. (note: I have not looked into what their views are exactly so I'm not saying parent poster is correct)

Nobody is being forced to do what they suggest.

[-] irmoz@reddthat.com 0 points 1 year ago

It wasn't an opinion, but a direction. "I dislike lemmy.ml because it is run by communists" is an opinion. "Don't go to lemmy.ml" isn't.

[-] 73ms@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

At the end of the day it is just an opinion even if it is in the form of a direction because the one giving it has no real influence on or ability to make the readers do it and they know it.

[-] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago

Directions don't only become directions when you have power. They're just ineffective if you don't have it. Doesn't mean you're not at least trying to control people

[-] 73ms@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago

That's really arguing about insignificant semantics just concerning the form and not the actual implications of the message.

[-] irmoz@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago

That is not semantics whatsoever. "Don't open that door" is a direction whether it comes from a stranger or a police officer. Why should anything else be different?

[-] 73ms@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago

I can't help you if you refuse to see any difference and don't find this constructive with you at this point.

[-] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago

There is nothing to "help" me with. You're just stubbornly refusing to see the point. Telling someone to do something is a fucking command.

Stop replying to me. This is a command.

[-] 73ms@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago

LOL. Yeah, not going to do that.

[-] Candelestine@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 year ago

When that opinion is shutting down dialogue, cowardly avoidance and censorship, it becomes a far dumber opinion than anyone else's.

[-] 73ms@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago

I think there's absolutely things worth doing boycotts over. I don't really like to have much to do with anything that is benefiting Russia for example. We can both have our opinions.

[-] Candelestine@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

I can agree with and support that. I would not extend that boycott to trying to silence other individuals though. I'd prefer to try to convince them.

[-] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago

Then maybe we shouldn't go around telling people which instances to associate with.

[-] Sethayy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

And Tbh anyone saying anything else is probably just propaganda - Id be willing to bet the biggest racist and biggest tankie would be best friends given the right introduction. Good ol divide and conquer

I don't believe that you're consistent on this position.

I would be incredibly shocked if you had the same stance towards white supremacists, Nazis, or pedophiles that want to remove age of consent.

If you do, then cheers. You're practically a unicorn (in the sense that it's extremely rare). I don't disagree with that position as long as it's consistant

[-] Candelestine@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago

I disagree with what you say, but will defend to death your right to say it. If you don't hear that often, find better friends.

[-] irmoz@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago

That's a very naive view, and ignores the existence of legitimately harmful opinions that must be fought

[-] exododo@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Wait untill you find who made lemmy in the first place. But don't worry, there's this proud capitalist alternative called reddit.

[-] Mewtwo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 year ago

I've been here for over a month, I'm well aware of who the Lemmy dev is.

Fortunately I also understand how Lemmy and the fediverse works.

[-] exododo@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I get you don't want to engage with tankie propaganda when you open lemmy (fair, me neither), but lemmygrad.ml is already defederated from most instances. I don't see the problem with lemmy.ml, wich is a general purpose instance run by the dev, with diverse communities and users. Unless you want to boicot the dev, but then why use his software at all? I don't get it

It's irrelevant who made lemmy since it's an open source project. Both reddit and lemmy are products of capitalist systems.

It's also using ActivityPub protocol, which was developed by W3C, a non-profit organization with a CEO, a board of directors and sponsored by large corporations such as Amazon, Google and Microsoft.

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