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[-] Rizoid@programming.dev 19 points 11 months ago

I've said this before and I think it needs repeating. Filoni is making better stuff than Disney did, and besides, the originals weren't as good as nostalgia thinks they are. Filoni's stuff is on par with the originals and like the originals its a great time for families and kids.

[-] KpntAutismus@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago

filoni did a great job making the clone wars. i'll say that. i'm currently watching rebels and mandalorian S03 and am quite disappointed, as usual with newer star wars stuff.

the main thing is: they may not have a grand roadmap like i imagine george had. none of the newer stuff is really that coherent. it spends more time inventing new stuff that never gets expanded on instead of tying into the previously established lore.

the originals were never the greatest movies ever made, and that's fine. at least it all made sense. it was all explainable. it was coherent.

i feel lost when watching post-2014 stuff, maybe because the lore isn't established yet, but maybe because it just didn't get thought through.

[-] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

My biggest gruff with Disney is them declaring the extended universe non canon just to cherry pick details from it while ignoring the most exciting lore and shit.

Like the whole palpatine returning thing happened in the EU but was done in a much better way. Different materials like beskar were more fleshed out.

Disney literally had thousands of stories to draw inspiration from and chose to just come up with bullshit over and over again.

[-] KpntAutismus@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

absolutely. never read any of the comics, but most of the really interesting stories seem to happen there. would love a well executed starkiller series. i actually did not know about him until i watched some matpat style videos about star wars.

[-] donslaught@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 months ago

I kind of love Starkiller's story, including the fact that his actions were so instrumental to forming the Rebel Alliance that they took his family crest as their sigil. That's badass.

[-] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

I'm glad they separated their universe from the EU. It means I can read the EU stuff with the knowledge that it has zero connection to Disney's crap.

[-] Yucky_Dimension@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago

Hard disagree. Filoni made Ahsoka, which is trash. He's the executive producer of The Book of Boba Fett, which is trash. He's the executive producer and wrote some episodes of The Mandalorian, which started promising and then turned to trash. So yeah. He fits right in with anything Disney created.

[-] Quadhammer@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

I like ashoka but boba did feel kinda meh. The rainbow scooters did make me audibly lol, but not really in a good way

[-] Tarcion@sh.itjust.works 10 points 11 months ago

Apologies for the wall of text.

Ehhh almost. The best Disney era stuff has been Mandalorian (S1) and Andor, which had, at best, Filoni consulting. Filoni's stuff is good quality but it's also fairly simplistic and self-referential, to the point of being almost masturbatory. I think Clone Wars is the best he's produced and it's 95% awful kids show with 5% very high quality storytelling mixed in, but I'll give the benefit of the doubt since it was literally intended as a kids show.

Prequels and sequels were pretty terrible for opposite reasons, as another poster has already mentioned. The original trilogy is pretty high quality, I don't think that's even debatable. While New Hope was a pretty bog-standard chosen one/heroic epic story, and maybe/definitely just a rip-off of Hidden Fortress, it gets all the credit for the blend of Eastern and Western themes and concepts. Additionally, for absolutely stunning special effects for the era. Empire is just objectively a good movie, and is definitely when Star Wars peaked. It's got excellent writing, directing, and cinematography, and did a phenomenal job maintaining the strengths of New Hope while doing a ton of work developing all of the characters and the universe. Jedi is... okay tbh. I put it about on par with the prequels although the Emperor is my favorite character.

The biggest problem imo with the Disney products lately is exactly that - they are clearly products intended only to capitalize on an already-successful IP, with nothing really to say nor any story to tell. Filoni doesn't have this problem, but he does have the issues above. If Disney can focus on letting creatives tell the stories they want to tell in the Star Wars Universe instead of just churning out products, I think they'll be okay.

[-] donslaught@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 months ago

Have you watched any of Star Wars Visions? I'm curious what you think about them.

On a related side note, my favorite Star Wars stories were always the ones from the Anthology 'Tales from...' books.

[-] Zoboomafoo@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Not OP but I loved Visions, not worrying about canon really freed them up to tell good stories

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