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[-] admiralteal@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago

He wants them to do something that doesn't work because he wants to be able to ignore it. He doesn't like the aesthetics of social protests and doesn't understand the history of Civil Disobedience movements.

That's all there is to it.

[-] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Have each of these JSO nitwits record a video telling a major car dealerships that only the back half of their lot can be used for ICE vehicles. The front half is for electrics and hybrids only.

They'll scoff.

Go paint a line down their lot, separating front and back halves.

They'll scoff.

Target your JSO "civil disobedience" at any of those ICE cars in the front half.

They'll notice. At that point, stop talking to them and paint some more lines.

Start talking to insurance companies: they are the ones who will be putting a dollar amount on that extortion, and charging dealers commensurate to the risk. When they all realize the dealers just need to stock and promote electric vehicles instead of ICE vehicles, they'll take the hint.

Pitting the insurance industry against the oil industry is much more likely to achieve the goals of JSO than harassing the general public.

[-] admiralteal@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

They would simply get arrested at the first threat because that's already illegal and people like you, who dislike protest, are in charge of the levers of law enforcement. Your theoretical protest wouldn't even happen.

[-] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 1 points 11 months ago

JSO already crosses the "illegal" boundary with their traffic obstruction. Since they insist on ~~illegal activity~~ "civil disobedience" anyway, I would say that a calculated, effective act of protest against property is far less egregious than their counterproductive, impotent, whiny angst.

If a slight risk of jail time makes them squeamish, I can only doubt their commitment to the environment. Seems all they really want is attention.

[-] WarmApplePieShrek@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 11 months ago

Why not do that, and deflate ICE tyres on the side of the road?

[-] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

New cars on dealer lots are only associated with people actively involved in the industry. You directly affect the oil executive's bottom line when you target those unsold cars. 100% of the harm you inflict directly impacts business of the oil industry.

Targeting a random car, the harm affects other, only tangentially related industries. Stranding a nurse, for example, affects the healthcare industry more than it affects the oil industry. Stranding an actor affects the entertainment industry more than the oil industry. Stranding a waitress affects the food service industry more than the oil industry.

If the objective is to protest the oil industry, the targets for protest need to be selected such that the majority of harm from that protest directly affects the oil industry.

[-] WarmApplePieShrek@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 months ago

Is the gas station violating your right to travel when it won't fill up your tank because your credit card declined, sir?

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