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[-] jalda@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago

They'd rather self-preserve themselves to Mars than do anything that could self-preserve all humanity

[-] DFTBA_FTW@lemmy.fmhy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

Even at +4c there will still be plenty of "nice" places for billionaires to fuck off to and build a nice little rich people commune. Hell, a +6c world is still the garden of eden in comparison to Mars.

Yes there's a lot of interest in Mars right now, but it's really is just mega rich nerds. Hell, if I was mega rich, I'd make an aerospace company too, space is cool.

The rich peppers are buying up land and building compounds in climate safe havens, like New Zealand.

[-] kale@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 year ago

Musk said something about how terraforming Mars to be habitable shouldn't be difficult, and I was thinking "well then getting CO2 from 400+ ppm to 300 ppm should be a cake walk for you! Why haven't you done that yet!"

[-] DFTBA_FTW@lemmy.fmhy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

I believe, and I'd have to go find the quote, but he meant/said simple. Simple =/= easy, just that there are a few things you can do that have a huge impact. Like you could bombard the polar caps and release a shit ton of Co2 and water which would thicken the atmosphere, trap some heat, and start a rain cycle. That's conceptually simple but practically hard. To keep on with Musk, he's also been quoted multiple times saying that living on Mars is gonna suck for a long long time.

I guess in the same way climate change is conceptually simple but practically hard. Cutting out 90% of Co2 emissions pulling existing Co2 out is simple, most of the tech is already developed, it just would cost hugely insane amounts of money to do it quickly. We have direct air capture, we could build dedicated nuclear power air capture plants above existing limestone/granite deposits and pump them full. It just would cost $$$$/kg.

[-] r_wraith@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Humans on Mars seems to be a pure fantasy fueld by old SF. Technically it seems to be easier (and more viable) to build floating cities on Venus than for humans to live (on the surface of) Mars

[-] Shurimal@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Maybe we should let them bugger out to the Mars. They can try their ancapistan "utopia" there, we'd be rid of the bastards. Win-win. Just put some railguns in orbit, in case their plans won't work out and they make their way back to Mother Gaia 🙃

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