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Volkswagen Admits Failure, Will Bring Back Physical Buttons
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I have a 2021 Seat Leon, basically it is a Golf with a Spannish design, almost everything apart from actually driving the car uses touch controls, with one exception, media can be controlled by buttons and a roller on the steering wheel.
It is really annoying and countries need to regulate that the following can't be touch controls:
A/C Temp
A/C Fanspeed
Heated rear window
Heated wind screen
Heated seats
Exterior light controls
Media volume
Media play/pause
Media previous/next track
Engine mode (Electric/Hybrid/HybridCustom)
This has been a gripe of mine for a looong time and not just in cars. For fuck sake, my fucking oven is touch screen and has wifi. why?
Every time I wipe it off, it thinks I'm touching 37 buttons and it overwelms the CPU, and the system restarts
Never again
Same with fucking electric stove tops. Why am I to use touch controls on the same surface that heats my pots and pans? Idiocy.
I guess I disagree on that one. If you’re talking induction, that is. For me, it’s a magical slab of glass that heats my food and is ridiculously easy to clean thanks for the touch buttons. Wipe wipe and it’s clean.
At least on induction there's some safety. Regular electric ones however...
Ah, that makes sense. I’m only used to induction and the regular old gas stoves.
Well, touch controls on appliances make more sense because they should last way longer than mechanical buttons, and it's not dangerous for you to focus your attention on them like it would be while driving.
Sorry what lol
Mechanical buttons wear out, touch buttons do not
Lol there are mechanical buttons who still work who outlive any touchscreen alive today by 200 years, what are you talking about lol?
First of all, touch buttons don't necessarily mean touch screens. Second, survivorship bias.
First of all, I absolutely do not believe that a capacitive sensor + control circuitry + whatever firmware that requires + the OS that I’m sure is running somewhere inside the device + the myriads of technically unnecessary software + OTA update functionality + IoT (the S is for security) integration + enormous attack surface as a result of all of the preceding points is going to last longer or work more reliably than a robustly-engineered switch or rheostat. Second, planned obsolescence is a fairly recent “innovation”.
Yeah we have a 2018 Seat Leon and that was one of the reasons we chose the older car as opposed to getting the 2021 with the fancier screen.
At first I didn't really like the interior of the 2018 Leon, but it's fine, I have really started liking the rear lights of the 2018 Leon, I like the lightbar on my Leon, but the earlier lights looks great!
Yeah. Practicality (and price) came before looks when it came down to those two cars in the end. The 2021 one had a glass roof, which I really liked, but there were too many drawbacks at the price point.
I got mine as it was in budget, almost new and it is a PHEV, so as lobg as the battery is charged it will only use a very small ammount of fuel, oh and it fits my parents and soster comfortably with me driving, I live alone, but I like being able to help out.
Aside from media related options, why wouldn't you want all of those to be automatically controlled?
Have you ever driven a car before?
Yes. Nice cars that automatically handle these functions for me. I wouldn't ever want to go back pushing buttons when it can just happen when it's supposed to.