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US senators have urged the DOJ to probe Apple's alleged anti-competitive conduct against Beeper.

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[-] kpw@kbin.social 27 points 9 months ago

Yes, they should be legally required to open up access to their service. No more walled gardens that hold a large number of users hostage.

[-] GentlemanLoser@ttrpg.network -5 points 9 months ago

So by this thinking all cars should have compatible parts.

The world just ain't that way bruh

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Fun fact, a lot of parts are compatible between cars. But really this is like if they were able to stop a machine shop from creating a replacement part.

[-] kpw@kbin.social 4 points 9 months ago

That would be awesome, wouldn't it be?

Do you think we live in the best possible of worlds where nothing can be improved anymore?

[-] rdri@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

And when some developer comes at you and shows how they did some work to make a part compatible with your cars, you go "fuck it, redo all existing cars to make all 3rd party incompatible!" instead of "ok do that at your own risk".

[-] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 9 months ago

Bad analogy. It's more like, Apple has its own roads that are exclusively for their cars.

[-] Eggyhead@kbin.social 1 points 8 months ago

Like someone’s private property that they can kind of do what they want with? Makes sense.

[-] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 8 months ago

Damn, the Apple dick sucker's are bad at analogies..

[-] Eggyhead@kbin.social 1 points 8 months ago
[-] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 8 months ago

Sorry it obviously also applies to understanding analogies.

[-] Eggyhead@kbin.social 1 points 8 months ago

I’d be more inclined to believe you if you weren’t throwing ad hominems around in what seems to be an amateurish effort to save face for some reason…

[-] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I don't think you're interested in reasoning at all, hence my disinterest in doing so. The Apple fanboys believe that everything Apple is good, even if it's against their own interests.

I don't like a company that deliberately manipulates people into recruiting more customers, like forcing them to exclude others from conversations because they have an android phone, but doing absolutely nothing to fix it, in fact, deliberately not fixing it and making the Apple users feel superior because "look what iMessage can do". I mean yeah, I've been able to do what iMessage did since back when a thing called MXit or BlackBerry messenger was around. But of course there's this assumption of superiority from the Apple users, because Apple is just superior right?

I was using a touch screen phone for like a year and a half before the iPhone even came out, but apparently it was Apple who revolutionised the market.

Just look at their shitty lightning cables, used for nothing but extortion.

But, the Apple dick suckers, will suck Apple dick until the day they die, because Steve Jobs, the person who perfected modern day planned obsolescence and has caused millions of tons of unnecessary e-waste, told them that by owning an apple product, they are superior.

[-] Eggyhead@kbin.social 1 points 8 months ago

I don’t need trollish, outlandish, inflammatory language to make a point, nor will it gain any favorability to any argument I hear. I get that it upsets you, but it also doesn’t affect you in any way. Literally the only people who encounter any side of this issue are Apple users, and anyone can just use a secondary chat app to avoid it. I literally have 6 chat apps installed on my phone, and I only use iMessage for less than ten people. Does that annoy me? Not really. I just keep all chat apps in a folder called “social” and treat that folder as if it’s its own cross-platform message app.

Nobody is being “forced” to do anything. People have options.
Who did what first doesn’t even matter. It’s merely interesting at best, but is beside the point and doesn’t lend any precedence to anything being discussed here.

Here’s the thing, if I had “friends” forcing me out of conversations just because I couldn’t so much as use iMessage with them, I’d question my own standing in that friendship and its actual value to me.

  1. Ask if there’s an app they preferred to use for non-Apple users, and see if you’re willing to join them there.
  2. Just tell them which app you use and how to reach you there. If they really need to reach you, they can just contact you that way.
  3. Let them keep using iMessage. Poor resolution images and green bubbles will be their problem to deal with, not yours.
[-] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I wasn't trying to argue, that's the point, like I said, I don't bother reasoning with true Apple fans, because they're weird about it. Hence me just going blah blah apple dick sucker. I don't feel like bothering with people obsessed with a corporation that abuses them.

Luckily I don't live in a country where iMessage even matters. But in the US I've heard some shitty stuff about the segregation, and it's working, more people are buying Apple devices, often times not because that's what they originally wanted. That kind of behavior is extremely predatory and generally not okay.

I work with Apple build servers every day, and they're such a piece of shit company that they even punish (read exploit) you for developing for their platform.

Now my analogy was pretty succinct I thought. We have the general roads where all cars can travel on, and then we get apple roads that only Apple cars can travel on, and sure you can build 2 driveways at your house, one for the apps that everyone else uses, and one for your apple car, but going by the posts any time anything like this comes up, people would rather have their apple driveway and apple roads and only visit friends who also are on apple roads. And it's BS manipulation.

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