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Lemmy.world Should Defederate with Threads (lemmy.world)

submitted 11 months ago by PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

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I think it's pretty safe to say that the majority of us are here to avoid another corporate takeover of our preferred platforms. It would seem to me to be a tad irresponsible to allow Facebook into our space with open arms, allowing them to hoover up our data. I would love to keep using Lemmy.world, but will happily change instances if need be, and I feel many share that sentiment.

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[-] PoolloverNathan@programming.dev 20 points 11 months ago

How to Kill a Decentralised Network (such as the Fediverse)

[-] MostlyHarmless@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago

This article is so misleading. XMPP died for the same reason all technology dies. No one used it. Even if Google hadn't ever used it, it would still be dead. I know this because Google Talk and ALL Google chat apps are dead. WhatsApp killed them all.

[-] Eldritch@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

You are more correct than they are but are still wrong*. A lot of the interest in XMPP died after they started pursuing standardization and of course after Google close off their servers. It never had a ground swell before or after that either though. XMPP however, still exists to this day. And has become integrated into internet of things, protocols for communications between devices and as well as more comprehensive communication services such as SIP. They literally just had their 2023 Google summer of code complete a month or so ago?

But yeah XMPP is not dead. Unfortunately, it was a surpassed by a number of other services that offered more. Evolving faster than XMPP could while looking to become standardized. It only lost relevance to most. Not it's life. For what it's worth since 2000 or 2001, there's hardly been a day that I have not been logged in to an XMPP server. I'm logged into one right now.

[-] Scrollone@feddit.it -2 points 11 months ago

In other words, Threads could help spreading the ActivityPub protocol more, not the other way around

[+] PropaGandalf@lemmy.world -9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

God why are all crying about XMPP? If you want to make it more popular just start using it yourself. If you don't have anyone to speak with over there just speak with me (seriously DM me).

Also we have a lot of open source alternatives by now so XMPP is just one of many good options which means that the people will go whith what they feel comfortable with. Trust me, if XMPP would be the only decentralized, open source chat protocol around I'd be using it exclusively and many others would probably too.

[-] smeg@feddit.uk 10 points 11 months ago

I think xmpp is just the example of what could happen to the fediverse if Facebook follow the same play

[-] Eldritch@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago

So you're saying Facebook will lose interest in the feddiverse and leave it largely unscathed to go on to do what it has always done? Not sure why people are so doom and gloom about this. This seems like the best outcome you all would want.

[-] smeg@feddit.uk 3 points 11 months ago

No, I think the point of the article is that they might try to siphon off all the casual fediverse uses with flashy features and big names and then break compatibility

[-] Klear@sh.itjust.works 0 points 11 months ago

There's barely anyone to siphon right now.

[-] Mac@mander.xyz -1 points 11 months ago

Damn, if only there were examples written down somewhere, perhaps online, where we could read theories based on past events about this potential situation.

Oh well i guess 🤷‍♂️