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submitted 10 months ago by chayleaf@lemmy.ml to c/linux@lemmy.ml

My biggest blog post yet, and it's about running (almost) vanilla NixOS on a (formerly) Android phone! This was 50% fun and 50% exhausting... you solve one issue and another one crops up right away... it was certainly an interesting educational experience.

I'm not explaining any basic technical concepts here, as I'm not a complete noob in phone ROMs and Linux.

Ask me any questions if you have them!

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[-] Strit@lemmy.linuxuserspace.show 3 points 10 months ago

I didn't know NixOS had official aarch64 repositories. 😜

[-] chayleaf@lemmy.ml 13 points 10 months ago

strictly speaking, NixOS doesn't have repositories.

NixOS has "derivations" (rules are written in the Nix language to generate a script that builds a package, which is called a derivation - yes, everything is built from source to the extent possible/reasonable) and "platforms" (the system that builds the derivation OR the system the derivation is built for). A "platform" is e.g. the CPU architecture, the libc used, the target kernel (there's most support for Linux and Darwin, which is the macOS kernel, but e.g. FreeBSD is supported to some extent too). The derivation code may well be shared across platforms, though often platform-specific workarounds are required.

Of course, different platforms have different support. Some platforms have derivations from nixpkgs (the NixOS git repo) regularly built for them and put into the official binary cache (which stores the derivation outputs, i.e. ready-built packages for a certain set of inputs, which generally match what you would've built from source because Nix strives for reproducibility, you're still free to override a package's inputs and build it from source). linux-aarch64 is one of such platforms. Other platforms may only have a small set of core packages like gcc built for them, or simply require building absolutely everything from source.

The reason nixpkgs is not a repository (though I guess you could call it one) is because it only provides rules to build a package, but not the package itself. Some derivations (e.g. for Gog games) even require you to add some non-redistributable files to the Nix store manually. The derivations may or may not build correctly for each platform they're supposed to work on.

The reason the binary cache is not a repository is because it's just a cache for nixpkgs - it stores every derivation's output (if the build doesn't fail), even if that derivation is one that downloads a package's source code (yes, that's a derivation too), even if the derivation is from many years ago (which has historical value, as you can revert nixpkgs to an old version and still be able to download prebuilt versions of packages).

Together, they form something like a repository, but it's still way too different. For example, unlike on Arch, I can stay on the same nixpkgs version for a long time without updating, which I really prefer because I have to build 3 kernels on each update, since I'm syncing the nixpkgs version of my 4 NixOS devices, only 1 of which doesn't require a custom kernel config. Or I can always revert back to an older version of nixpkgs if a new one breaks something and it will still work. Or I can fork nixpkgs and change some stuff, and the stuff with changed inputs will have to be rebuilt locally, with stuff that didn't change still available from the binary cache.

[-] Strit@lemmy.linuxuserspace.show 2 points 10 months ago

Thanks for the detailed response.

So nixpkgs is more akin to the AUR, then a binary repository? The AUR is also just build scripts.

[-] chayleaf@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

yes, if that AUR was in a centralized git repository, and kept track of inter-package compatibility, and centrally cached prebuilt versions of the packages for every single update, and you could also easily modify any of the packages, and there was a way to autogenerate build scripts, and and and...

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