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[-] autismdragon@hexbear.net 22 points 10 months ago

you can selfishly want the anti-american governments to stay in power to oppose your country. also honduras is a western country too lmao

Yes this is exactly the point being made here. Its not even selfish. Its just how Lenininst antiimperalism works. Wanting American hegenomy to be hurt as an American is actually the opposite of selfish?

Also for the last line, yes its in the western hemisphere but its not part of the imperial core. Which is why we carefully use that language instead. The tem "western" is fairly useless for this reason.

[-] threebody@hexbear.net 7 points 10 months ago

lesser of the two evilism has NOTHING to do with Lenin keep his name out of your mouth before actually opening a book for once

[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Revolutionary defeatism means opposing your own nation, not “both sidesing”. In effect, that means lesser of two evils thinking is inherent to revolutionary defeatism. I get if you are allergic to moralistic phrasing of the concept, but it does ultimately come down to destroying ones own empire above all else because it's what you have understanding of and any ability to influence. Which, when speaking of global events, de facto forces any Americans or westoids to first and foremost prioritize targeting "the greater evil" of the Anglo-American empire.

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