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Tesla hiring Nordic policy expert as 'WWE-like standoff' with unions intensifies (www.cnbc.com)

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[-] domi@lemmy.secnd.me 4 points 11 months ago

Anyone could tell the wind was blowing towards electric cars.

Not to defend Musk but that is simply not true. Everyone was saying electric cars will never work. Just 6 years ago the Volkswagen CEO made fun of Tesla and now they are still playing the catch up game.

https://youtu.be/wSklSKRkIpk (english subtitles available)

[-] Jumi@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

German car manufacturers live on goverment subsidies not innovation so that man's opinion is trash.

[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 4 points 11 months ago

Elmo didn't start Tesla, he isn't a founder.

He only invested a bit like he does with tons of companies. And when Tesla became popular, sued the real founders in order to call himself a founder.

Elmo is like the Steve Jobs of electric cars. The only thing he was good at was marketing.

[-] HollandJim@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

So what? Diess was optimistic but had to also drag German labor along, and that market has rights US union could only dream of.

But he worked cooperatively with them, even through a worldwide pandemic. They’re still waiting for parts.

We’re far beyond that pandemic and Elon is doing whatever his highness wants, when he wants it. Surprise, surprise - it doesn’t get him anywhere outside of Republican-controlled territories, and he’s having a hissy fit on X.

I, meanwhile, munch popcorn and enjoy driving the VW ID.3 I bought in place of the Model 3 order I cancelled. Fuck Musk - he gets none of my money, and clearly nothing from Norway either.

[-] domi@lemmy.secnd.me 2 points 11 months ago

So what?

None of what you said is wrong but none of it concerns the original statement that everyone knew things were headed towards electric cars.

Nobody knew, nobody would have invested, but Musk tried anyway. One can be a massive asshole and sometimes right at the same time.

Your ID.3 is the product of the push Tesla gave the industry at a point in time where nobody gave a shit about electric cars. Who knows much much longer things would have taken without that push.

[-] HollandJim@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Tesla wasn’t alone in the push. Nissan’s Leaf was very popular but Tesla made it cool. Cool, as long as you cold afford it, but dieselgate and climate change are what made EVs a necessity today.

But to the original point - why do you think we need to repeat common news from the past few months? He’s been trying to union bust and the entire distribution chain in Norway is fighting back - maybe do some reading first before launching a defense?

[-] domi@lemmy.secnd.me 1 points 11 months ago

Tesla wasn’t alone in the push. Nissan’s Leaf was very popular but Tesla made it cool. Cool, as long as you cold afford it,

The Leaf came both after the initial Roadster launch and the initial funding by Musk. They definitely helped but the main push was the Model S and 3.

but dieselgate and climate change are what made EVs a necessity today.

Do you really believe anyone gave a damn about dieselgate or gives a damn about climate change now? You gave them money by buying a ID.3, did the dieselgate situation influence your decision at all?

maybe do some reading first before launching a defense?

My comment is in reference to a single sentence. Neither am I defending anyone, simply correcting a wrong statement. If you do not think the statement is wrong, that is fine but don't tell me to do some reading while ignoring the context of the comment chain.

[-] HollandJim@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago

Do you really believe anyone gave a damn about dieselgate or gives a damn about climate change now?

You told me all you need to tell me about yourself. Goodbye.

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