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UN Human Rights Office - OPT: Unlawful killings in Gaza City (reliefweb.int)

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[-] chitak166@lemmy.world 85 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Israel is worse than Russia, at least going by the numbers.

Israel has killed more civilians in 2 months than Russia has killed in 2 years.

[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 18 points 9 months ago

To be fair though, the Russian army is a joke, and say what you want about the IDF, they're good at their job. Their job is to mostly murder innocent civilians, and they're quite good at that, much more efficient than the Russian army

[-] UNWILLING_PARTICIPANT@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago

Well they've been trained well

[-] popcap200@lemmy.ml 6 points 9 months ago

Yeah, but that's what we know of. It's suspected that there's a record breaking (for modern Europe) mass grave outside Mariupol. I doubt the numbers will get as high as the IDFs, but we can't get any independent journalists or investigators past Russia's front line from my understanding.

Also, like the other guy said, that fight is a bad professional army vs a better smaller professional army.

The IDF vs Hamas is an okay but cruel professional army against a relatively bad terrorist organization.

[-] xor@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

"Okay but cruel" seems like a weird way to say bad

[-] sirboozebum@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

Weird way to say "war criminals"

[-] harmsy@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

I think they meant good and bad in terms of skill level, not moral alignment.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

Throwing American money on Children isn't skill though.

Skill would have been preventing 7 Oct with "worlds best intelligence agency". There is no skill in the IDF.

[-] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip -1 points 8 months ago

They likely arranged it, that would take skill.

[-] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

I think he means their performance in combat, going by the way he spoke of Ukraine/Russia in the comment.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

The Russians are far more Humane than the IDF.

[-] popcap200@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago

Yeah, I wasn't sure how to phrase it. Well trained but bad is a better phrasing I suppose. I find it hard to use the word "bad" when both sides are "bad" idk. I get where both sides come from in the fight 🤷‍♂️

[-] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 0 points 8 months ago

"Okay" means they are not as cool as they think. A good professional army would wipe its arse with them. Naturally Hamas is not that, nor anything threatening them.

[-] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 0 points 8 months ago

The IDF vs Hamas is an okay but cruel professional army against a relatively bad terrorist organization.

IDF was literally created by combining terrorist organizations, Haganah and Irgun being the big ones. So, unless the militant wing of Hamas is the cruel, professional Army, it's terrorists vs. terrorists.

[-] popcap200@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago

This opinion makes no sense to me. The US Army was also formed during a terrorist action, so was the Russian red army. We wouldn't have called the Russian red army in WW2 a terrorist organization, and we certainly wouldn't call the US military a terrorist organization. We could call them cruel or bad or whatever based on personal opinions, but we wouldn't call them terrorist organizations.

For a more extreme example, the Nazi military was far far worse than Hamas or the IDF and I still would call them a professional military. They were still state sanctioned, trained to a specific common standard, paid a wage, internationally recognized as a military force, etc. etc.

[-] Siegfried@lemmy.world -3 points 8 months ago

Mariupol

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 20 points 8 months ago

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1293492/ukraine-war-casualties/

9000 killed 17000 injured in Ukraine in total. Sources are usually ~1000 above or below this number.

Israel killed more civilian in one month than Russia did since the start of their invasion.

Israel has already killed twice as many civilians now as Russia has in Ukraine.

Israel is wayyyy worse than Russia. The israelis are actual Nazis but Jewish.

Russia says "special military operation" instead of "war".

Israel says "war" instead of "Genocide".

[-] Siegfried@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago

Oh, i was expecting another cero after the flatenning of the city... thanks

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