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[-] User_4272894@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago

Musk said it in Rogan a few weeks ago, and it became a justified belief overnight. It had huge flaws in logic when he said it, and no one who is parroting the talking point today is thinking beyond "the real life Ironman says we live in the matrix".

[-] K0W4LSK1@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Pretty sure simulation theory has been around since the late 80s. Just not in the main media zeitgeist anymore like when matrix came out so Elon just revived it in mainstream media

[-] User_4272894@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

I mean, Descartes had brain in a vat theories well before the 1980s, and Plato's allegory of the cave is fundamentally the same. My position was that "the reason we're talking about it again all of a sudden is because one idiot got on the podcast of another idiot and poorly explained it to the throngs of their uncritical fans".

[-] anticommon@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago

The whole simulation theory stems from observations about how fast technology is advancing as a whole, and kind of plays hand in hand with the fermi paradox. Either we are a special advanced civilisation that will continue to advance until we could in theory simulate an entire species/planet/civilisation or whatever or we are doomed to die out before we can advance enough to achieve either that goal or potentially other goals such as building replicating space exploration technology that might be capable of exploring/consuming/adulterating part of the galaxy or even the galaxy as a whole.

Both theories are basically an extrapolation of our current technological progression with some large assumptions made about the way things in this universe operate as a whole. I don't think they are particularly far fetched, but I also don't really see much evidence to support either being a possibility, except maybe the whole we are fucking up our ecosystem and heading towards some type of collapse before we get too advanced parts of the fermi paradox.

Another theory that I've heard which is really just a statistics thing is that it's most likely that we are an average civilisation that lasts an average amount of time in an average part of the galaxy and that it's likely we are right about in the middle of the total number of humans that has or will ever exist (about 100 billion came before us, probably another 100 billion to go) which could be a couple centuries or millenia left of human reign over planet Earth.

All being said, it's pretty likely that since the future hasn't happened yet we just won't know how it all turns out until it does. We're all just as uncertain as anybody else, and whoever preaches the gospel of kingdom come is just as ignorant as you and I.

[-] Cannacheques@slrpnk.net 2 points 11 months ago

Meh, when we find big space monoliths or mega structures in the asteroid belts we'll probably feel a lot less special

[-] Cannacheques@slrpnk.net 0 points 11 months ago

Sounds like someone saw the devil in a screen during a brief but short psychosis and then extended this idea into his own depersonalisation/derealization experience of his whole life

Yeah not the first to think something like that, kind of like people once thought their whole lives were a dream lol

[-] DriftinGrifter@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 11 months ago

If you take your opinion from either of those sources I really can't help you they aren't representative of what the majority or anyone worth their shit thinks

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