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this post was submitted on 23 Dec 2023
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Nothing here is self hosted. You are running VPS (!!) and want to expand to other continents where presumably you don’t live.
Go bother someone in a random web hosting forum.
While I agree with @rglullis@communick.news, this isn't strictly speaking on-topic for this community, that kind of knee-jerk response is very much out of the topic as well. The first community rule is to be civil and in general I, perhaps optimistically, would like that conversation over fediverse in global would be civil, or at least well argumented, a bit like it used to be (more or less, YMMV) back in the usenet days.
And on the topic of self-hosting, that's a line drawn in the water. I run various of things by myself (postfix+dovecot, LAMP, bitwarden, seafile, nextcloud....) on a rented servers running linux+kvm. And I get money by doing that, it's a very much a business case, so I'm a bit reluctant to ask questions about the setup I have in here as I think it wouldn't be fair to ask for advice from hobbyists in a project where money is directly involved. But for me personally that setup checks both sides of things. I get money by doing it, but at the same time I personally can get out of the walled gardens like M365 or Gsuite.
TL;DR: There's no need to be rude, you can choose to politely point people in the right direction.
I wasn't quick enough to answer @vsq, but I'd really like to know, as a false beginner, isn't renting a VPS server considered as selfhosting? Even if I have all my services on it (Jellyfin, n8n, Immich, TeamCity etc).
Depends on whom you ask from. For me selfhosting is all about the software and renting hardware is a perfectly fine solution for that. You don't need to worry about UPS's, maintaining hardware and all the jazz which comes with your own gear. Sure, then you're depending on your VPS provider that services actually stay up, but even a small VPS provider has more people working on things than just yourself. And they have power solutions, like industrial scale power solutions with generators, multiple connection points to the internet and things like that which are either impossible or very expensive to set up just for your own hardware.
And then there's the other side, like home automation, where relying on internet connectivity to get your lights on is, in my opinion, a bit silly thing to do for yourself and running server for that locally makes perfect sense. So, right solution depends on your needs, but if you want to define what counts as self hosting in my opinion it boils down to who has the root/administrator credentials on your server. Other may have different opinions.