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submitted 11 months ago by ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml to c/us_news@lemmygrad.ml

Apparently all Musk wanted to do with this was undercut any attempts at high speed rail in California.

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[-] AlbigensianGhoul@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 11 months ago

I was so hopeful some really angry train nerd would try to find a random unguarded section of the tube and shoot at it with a handgun, causing billions in damages.

[-] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 11 months ago

I'm surprised how little anti-capitalist gun violence there is in the US. Why aren't corporate boardrooms the targets of mass shootings?

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The most hardline devoted communists/anarchists/etc who would be most likely to commit ideological terrorism are familiar with the historical failures of adventurism, so they don't do it. Another big factor is that corporate boardrooms, mansions, yachts, etc, are much more difficult to gain access to than driving down to the nearest wal-mart and opening fire on random poor people. Lastly I'd say people with left-ish political views tend to generally believe suffering inc death/murder is bad and are just less violent in general.

I do assume some attempts are made and we just don't hear about it though. Like, there have to have been assassination attempts by chuds on Biden (and Obama before him), right? It's just suppressed so as to not give people ideas. Stands to reason the same thing would apply the other direction.

[-] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 11 months ago

Yeah, excellent points. I guess inexperienced leftists in the US are largely still liberal, and so automatically abhor violence in any form, and by the time they're educated enough to actually understand leftist theory they understand enough to know that adventurism doesn't work.

I would imagine you're right about the US presidents, probably a lot of assassination attempts we just don't hear about, regardless of political affiliation.

[-] PoY@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 11 months ago

i always wonder the same.. like why shoot up schools, bars, marathons, etc when there are fortune 1000 companies everywhere

also nobody would be too upset if someone took a politician or two with them if they were just going to off themselves

[-] AlbigensianGhoul@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 11 months ago

I believe part of the reason is that effective leftist (non-anarchist) gun activism mostly revolves around self-defence organisations (think BPP or AIM) rather than combat or terrorism. And history has shown that even the slightest signal of successful organisation from marginalised groups in the US having guns will trigger the most violent of reactions from the State and bourgeois media.

Another part is how hard it is to have access to the ruling class or their lackeys. You'll probably never run into a board member of Amazon or Lockheed Martin on the streets (and they're usually not very well known). My hypothetical train nerd would have a lot of trouble trying to locate and enact the Trolley Problem on US Secretary of Transportation (and Mayo) Pete Buttigieg, even after the East Palestine derailment earlier this year or strike block last year.

But it's always worth remembering that the USA has enacted the most all-encompassing surveillance state in history, even if they sometimes suffer from the typical imperialist incompetence form hubris. Most adventurist plots are probably silently caught before the plans are put into motion.

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